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Nice Going Governor.. 15 an hour for Fast Food Workers across the State of New York. oh boy.....
- Thread starter Twilight Hue
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Wirey
Fartist
If fast food is a large enough part of your diet that this affects you, you needed to get a break anyway.
I don't know if that's really being implied in the OP. I certainly think businesses will find a way to handle it. Whether that means moving to a more business friendly climate, a reduction in labor force or increase in prices. There are other options too, like reducing transportation costs, buying cheaper materials.
Whether it's actually going to help decrease poverty I kind of doubt. I think a good education and promoting a business friendly climate would probably work better.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It's not the fast food. That should have been obvious.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Its all about the impact on the economic climate. People for some reason keep thinking raising wages through strong arm tactics solves the problem. It dosent. It only serves to worsen the situation even further. No doubt business will adjust through any of the examples you mention.
The difference will get eaten up anyway through incurred higher costs and of course higher taxation follows as well within the next 5 to 10 years, and people will be whining again about the same thing that low income families can't survive on 15 an hour.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Business are not charities. They respond to market pressures. I actually agree 100%with you.
The solution? Easy.
Stop applying for jobs that offer excessively low pay. They will come around or go out of business like you said.
Or just let students and teenagers who don't have to support themselves on a single income take the lower paying jobs. Maybe older folks living on SS who want to make a little extra. Some of these fast food places pay higher. In n Out already pays their Burger flippers $15 an hour starting after 60 days.
Look at these prices
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McDonald's advertising budget $963 million.
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No It isn't. Not at all.
People just requires the right mix of perspective, complacency, and attitude deal with things and better themselves.
If people desire stagnation, or think they are in a helpless situation and freeze like a deer in the path of an oncoming train, then it's really a situation of ones own making.
Hard to accept but true.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Nice.Or just let students and teenagers who don't have to support themselves on a single income take the lower paying jobs. Maybe older folks living on SS who want to make a little extra. Some of these fast food places pay higher. In n Out already pays their Burger flippers $15 an hour starting after 60 days.
Look at these prices
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So nice....
That's the way I like it K C & the Sunshine Band.…:
Apex
Somewhere Around Nothing
Charity is giving something and expecting nothing in return. Giving someone a living wage for a full days labor is not charity, it is the ethical thing to do. It should also be legally required.
The fact that you think many people even have this option is telling. What should they tell their bill collectors? "Oh, I will just have to pay my rent next month, I am still looking for a job that will pay me above the poverty line".
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
And do what? Ask the job fairy to just magically make jobs with better wages appear and ward off all of your competition for that job?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It's precisely the fault of the person saying, "Sure I'll work for crummy wages."
Then complains the wages are crummy.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
So then are they supposed to not work at all, receiving no wages at all?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Are people really That helpless? Seriously?
Everyone's an invalid or imprisoned by a crappy paying employer that they just cannot possibly get another job anywhere, anymore. What are people wearing? Cement galoshes?
Wanna know what I was directly told when I cried and moaned about the very same thing? "You got two feet. Use them."
I totally abhored people telling me that. Totally hated it, but it was also one of the best pieces of advice I'd ever received.
Listen...
Living wages for everyone sounds nice and I wish it was the case, I really honestly do, but it's not the reality of the market as it stands.
If people really want to legislate themselves into a higher cost of living, higher taxes, and even putting more people out of work be my guest. Go for it. Try for 30 an hour. Sky's the limit.
Lets just see right now just how far a legislated 15 bucks and hour will last till once again, ad nausiem, it's simply not enough to live on. Oh my. Again and again and again.
You know retail will not be far behind......
To that,
Kay sera sera.... whatever will be, will be.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No, but don't complain if you knew first hand it was crummy. You just keep a constant eye open for opportunity and better jobs and then say adios and good riddence once it opens up to you.
Be proactive and persevere.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That's why It's called the rat race.