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No reason for our existence

idav

Being
Premium Member
If life isn't perfect and is not an eternal blissful life of no suffering and misery, then there is no reason for our existence.
Then your better off keeping faith.

"Be patient".

The Patient lyrics - Tool
A groan of tedium escapes me,
Startling the fearful.
Is this a test? It has to be,
Otherwise I can't go on.
Draining patience, drained vitality.
This paranoid, paralyzed vampire act's a little old.

But I'm still right here
Giving blood, keeping faith,
And I'm still right here.

Wait it out.
Gonna wait it out.
Be patient (wait it out).

If there were no reward to reap,
No loving embrace to see me through,
This tedious path I've chosen here,
I certainly would've walked away by now.
Gonna wait it out.

If there were no desire to heal
A damaged and broken man along
This tedious path I've chosen here
I certainly would've walked away by now.

And I still may ... [sigh] ... I still may.

Be patient.
I must keep reminding myself of this.

And if there were no rewards to heal,
No loving embrace to see me through
This tedious path I've chosen here,
I certainly would've walked away by now.
And I still may.

Gonna wait it out.
 

Etritonakin

Well-Known Member
If life isn't perfect and is not an eternal blissful life of no suffering and misery, then there is no reason for our existence. There is no reason to live for one another, love one another, help one another, and to cherish this life. If this is the one and only life we will ever have, then that is no reason at all to live it, make the best of it, and contribute to society/make the world a better place.

If all we are is just these life forms (biological organisms) that are just here for a short time only to forever cease to exist when we die, then I just see no reason to be born. We are all better off taking ourselves out of this life right here and now. If I had the choice, I would choose to have never been born if there is no eternal blissful afterlife for me.

Many others do think that there is every reason to live life and cherish it/treasure it even if it is the one and only life we will ever have. But I don't. That is no reason for me. My only reason is a perfect life. A life in which I can live forever, don't have to worry about ceasing to exist, and don't have to worry about any suffering and depression in my life.

An eternal blissful life is all I care about, is the only thing that brings joy and meaning to my life, and is my only reason for being here. It is just the absolute most horrible thing for me to forever cease to exist when I die and there is no way I would ever want to be part of such a life.

I don't understand how people can act as though it is a good thing that this is the one and only life we have. It might be for those fortunate enough to live a full meaningful life. But what about those who are unfortunate who only life for a few days and die of agonizing pain and misery?

They hardly got anything out of life. The only reason why we are able to live full meaningful lives is because we are fortunate. That is all. We are just lucky that we are the ones to survive. The fact that this entire life is run by sheer luck of things is what makes it meaningless.

Finally, I personally find that a time limit on this Earth restricts my freedom and makes me miserable. If such a time limit were removed and I could live forever and be forever happy, then I would be completely free. I would finally be free to live, have joy, and enjoy my life all I want for all eternity with no restrictions making me miserable and taking away the joy and meaning in my life.

I am only here to get what I want in life. That is, an eternal blissful life. If I don't get that, then I am not even going to bother living for anyone or anything else. I will just give up on life completely.

Bliss is achievable by satisfying certain requirements. More bliss can be caused by satisfying more complex requirements -but increased complexity increases the potential for problems.

"Life" is perfect and blissful -but we have not yet mastered life. We are not yet perfect and have not learned to cause and maintain bliss -but that is our general direction.

Before you began to perceive, you did not even think of bliss or misery. Then you were thrown into a very complex environment as a very complex individual -along with many others.

You should not be surprised that a period of adjustment and learning is necessary.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
If life isn't perfect and is not an eternal blissful life of no suffering and misery, then there is no reason for our existence. There is no reason to live for one another, love one another, help one another, and to cherish this life. If this is the one and only life we will ever have, then that is no reason at all to live it, make the best of it, and contribute to society/make the world a better place.

If all we are is just these life forms (biological organisms) that are just here for a short time only to forever cease to exist when we die, then I just see no reason to be born. We are all better off taking ourselves out of this life right here and now. If I had the choice, I would choose to have never been born if there is no eternal blissful afterlife for me.

Many others do think that there is every reason to live life and cherish it/treasure it even if it is the one and only life we will ever have. But I don't. That is no reason for me. My only reason is a perfect life. A life in which I can live forever, don't have to worry about ceasing to exist, and don't have to worry about any suffering and depression in my life.

An eternal blissful life is all I care about, is the only thing that brings joy and meaning to my life, and is my only reason for being here. It is just the absolute most horrible thing for me to forever cease to exist when I die and there is no way I would ever want to be part of such a life.

I don't understand how people can act as though it is a good thing that this is the one and only life we have. It might be for those fortunate enough to live a full meaningful life. But what about those who are unfortunate who only life for a few days and die of agonizing pain and misery?

They hardly got anything out of life. The only reason why we are able to live full meaningful lives is because we are fortunate. That is all. We are just lucky that we are the ones to survive. The fact that this entire life is run by sheer luck of things is what makes it meaningless.

Finally, I personally find that a time limit on this Earth restricts my freedom and makes me miserable. If such a time limit were removed and I could live forever and be forever happy, then I would be completely free. I would finally be free to live, have joy, and enjoy my life all I want for all eternity with no restrictions making me miserable and taking away the joy and meaning in my life.

I am only here to get what I want in life. That is, an eternal blissful life. If I don't get that, then I am not even going to bother living for anyone or anything else. I will just give up on life completely.
no afterlife in this scheme of thought?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
did I mention the design?
we are here to learn all that we can before we die
the body can do little else

we are wired to become unique individuals
7billions perspectives are forming even as I type this

God and heaven await to see what will stand from the dust
 
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