No weapons allowed in to my home.

[Nakosis]

What better is there to do than virtue signalling, huh?

Got ya there, didn't I?

I was going to say no, but how often do people realize when they are doing this?

No you ever virtue signal?
I'm wonder if I ever do it...

I'm kind of amoral, but maybe I see being amoral as a superior moral position.

 

[BSM1]

In my home, I have a rule that no weapons are allowed, and this has not been a problem for police or military personnel. The few times the police have visited my home, they left their weapon in the police car when i told them that I do not accept weapons in my home.

The military(only one-time visited) left one guy downstairs with the weapons when two guys followed med up to my home.

Why do some people get shocked when they hear this kind of thing?

Welcome to victim hood...

 

[shmogie]

In my home, I have a rule that no weapons are allowed, and this has not been a problem for police or military personnel. The few times the police have visited my home, they left their weapon in the police car when i told them that I do not accept weapons in my home.

The military(only one-time visited) left one guy downstairs with the weapons when two guys followed med up to my home.

Why do some people get shocked when they hear this kind of thing?

As a retired 25 year law enforcement officer, If you said you didn´t allow weapons, I would tell you tough.

I would never disarm myself at the request of anyone, the concept is simply ludicrous.

I don know where you live, but the cops appear to be idiots.

Why are you having so many visits from law enforcement types ?

I nnow of old folk who have never in their lifetime had the police come calling.

 

[Audie]

I don't have any issues with you banning weapons at home, but I am surprised that police or military personnel disarmed themselves to enter.

I would never expect police disarm in order to enter my home, because their weapons are defensive and they never know when they might need them.

I would expect Police to be disciplined if they left their weapons in a vehicle.

The story is not quite believable.

I would not leave my purse out in the car!
Leaving weapons is insane.

 

[Audie]

I don't have any issues with you banning weapons at home, but I am surprised that police or military personnel disarmed themselves to enter.

I would never expect police disarm in order to enter my home, because their weapons are defensive and they never know when they might need them.

I would expect Police to be disciplined if they left their weapons in a vehicle.

The story is not quite believable.
I'd never even leave my purse in the car.

 

[Audie]

How ironic to see this thread when I am thinking of moving past my dislike of guns and buying one.

I never thought about guns other than a vague distaste
for them, until I felt I had a need to get one.

Shooting is actually fun!

I gave it to a girl friend, later. They're not permitted in NYC.

 

[Revoltingest]

They're not permitted in NYC.

I've been there. Ugh.
If ever there were a people unqualified to own guns, twould be them.

 

[Nakosis]

I am not shocked that you have that rule. I am a little surprised that your local police comply with your rule, but I suppose that because you live in Norway.
What I am shocked by is the news that you have had police visit your home a few times and that military personnel have visited your home. I assume that all of those visits involved official business, and I now wonder what the heck goes on in your home that causes police and military personnel to enter your house.

I'm 70 years old and live in America. Police have never had reason to enter my home or my parent's home when I was a child; and the only military personnel who ever enter my parent's home was me when I was in the Navy and my nephew when he was in the Army and neither of us went home with weapons.

So what kind of mischief or crime goes on in your house?

Yeah, my son got the crap kicked out of him because he refuse to let the police in his house without a warrant. He has a scare on his arm where the police sic'd a police dog on him. All because he refused entry because they didn't have a warrant.

However they claimed suspicious activity. Someone called into the police claiming he was a terrorist.

So good luck in the US trying to get the police to leave their guns behind.

 

[Nakosis]

I never thought about guns other than a vague distaste
for them, until I felt I had a need to get one.

Shooting is actually fun!

I gave it to a girl friend, later. They're not permitted in NYC.

Sure, guns are fun. Guns are a leisure activity. Guns are sport. Guns are collectable. Lots of reasons to own a gun besides shooting people.

 

[Audie]

Sure, guns are fun. Guns are a leisure activity. Guns are sport. Guns are collectable. Lots of reasons to own a gun besides shooting people.

Of course number one reason for me was
hypervigilance and compulsion to obsessivly take
every conceivabke precaution.

Sounds like mental illness! But it is a natural reaction
to a traumatic attack.

Anyway, guns fail to interest me, at all, and I
am fine leaving behind the time and place where
I needed one.

I woukd for sure have done anything possible
rather than go through that again, but i am sooo
glad there was no need to ever do "shots fired in anger."!!!

 

[Nakosis]

Of course number one reason for me was
hypervigilance and compulsion to obsessivly take
every conceivabke precaution.

Sounds like mental illness! But it is a natural reaction
to a traumatic attack.

Anyway, guns fail to interest me, at all, and I
am fine leaving behind the time and place where
I needed one.

I woukd for sure have done anything possible
rather than go through that again, but i am sooo
glad there was no need to ever do "shots fired in anger."!!!

Sorry, I mean, maybe I understand a little. I was minding my own business, taken by surprise for no reason that I know off. I was really pissed, wanted to hunt the guy down, but by the time I recovered they were long gone. Didn't see them, couldn't id them other than a glimpse of what they were wearing.

No justice for that event. I'm a big guy, don't need a gun but would have liked to return the pain.

 

[BSM1]

Sure, guns are fun. Guns are a leisure activity. Guns are sport. Guns are collectable. Lots of reasons to own a gun besides shooting people.

But shooting people in defense of yourself and loved ones should top the list. BTW, I am not a big guy. and even if I were I would not be willing to be so macho as facing someone (or someones) looking to do me harm without a weapon.

 

[Audie]

Sorry, I mean, maybe I understand a little. I was minding my own business, taken by surprise for no reason that I know off. I was really pissed, wanted to hunt the guy down, but by the time I recovered they were long gone. Didn't see them, couldn't id them other than a glimpse of what they were wearing.

No justice for that event. I'm a big guy, don't need a gun but would have liked to return the pain.

I am trying to picture what you are
talking about??

 

[Nakosis]

But shooting people in defense of yourself and loved ones should top the list. BTW, I am not a big guy. and even if I were I would not be willing to be so macho as facing someone (or someones) looking to do me harm without a weapon.

Ok, just hard to argue in current circumstances, that most people would have a gun at the ready, and be prepared to use it.

 

[Nakosis]

I am trying to picture what you are
talking about??

You said you had experience a tragedy, and sought protection of a gun.

Don't know what your tragedy was, but I had an event were I was attacked and felt violated and mad that I had no chance to defend myself.

I thought maybe something like that had happen to you to cause you to look into owning a gun.

 

[Audie]

You said you had experience a tragedy, and sought protection of a gun.

Don't know what your tragedy was, but I had an event were I was attacked and felt violated and mad that I had no chance to defend myself.

I thought maybe something like that had happen to you to cause you to look into owning a gun.

Kind of understatement to say "felt",
but yeah..

Anyway it irks me, people who have gotten
by as if there were no dangers and so feel
they can occupy the spiritual high ground
with "no weapon, no self defense" posturing.

Not that I want them to learn the terror, pain,
and helplessness for themselves, just, you
know, dont bs me with how wonderful one
is with "no weapons".

 

[Revoltingest]

But shooting people in defense of yourself and loved ones should top the list. BTW, I am not a big guy. and even if I were I would not be willing to be so macho as facing someone (or someones) looking to do me harm without a weapon.

Fair fights are for sporting events.

 

[oldbadger]

Virtue.....when I opine, it's most often perceived as evil.
Thus my virtue signaling would defeat the intent.
So I prefer sin signaling.

Sin signalling should be a doddle for me, but it's just a question of clicking in to the technique. Could you give an example?

 

[Revoltingest]

Sin signalling should be a doddle for me, but it's just a question of clicking in to the technique. Could you give an example?

"I don't donate money to the poor."
"Work for what you want. I do.....or once did."
(@Wu Wei supports me now. Work more, Booboo.)

 

[oldbadger]

The story is not quite believable.

I would not leave my purse out in the car!
Leaving weapons is insane.

Yep. I have been thinking of a scenario where a police officer might enter a home when disarmed, and here in the UK the only possibility might be a visit from a crime prevention officer. These officers visit to offer advice, to inspect gun safe suitability etc etc.

But where officers have reason to enter any home then they either need a warrant, a very serious situation or they've arrested a resident and come straight to the home to search it before going on to a police station, which they're allowed to do sometimes. In any of those scenarios, they'd be carrying their defensive weapons.