Non-Binary

[rocala]

Not sure why this is in politics?

Thank you. I was somewhat puzzled by this myself.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

My partner is nonbinary, and for them this is an acknowledgement that despite having a female biology, they have never felt completely comfortable with feminine pronouns and social expressions. They also do not feel comfortable with the masculine either. They feel like their identity cannot be adequately expressed with a "this or that" option.

 

[Kfox]

Would it be better if I put in under Psychology?

 

[SalixIncendium]

Would it be better if I put in under Psychology?

Sexuality might be the best venue if your intent is to simply ask, accept answers you receive and discuss them.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Sexuality might be the best venue if your intent is to simply ask, accept answers you receive and discuss them.

The history of the configuration of the family, and the sexual division of labor, is complicated, but quite interesting.

 

[crossfire]

Sexuality might be the best venue if your intent is to simply ask, accept answers you receive and discuss them.

Sexuality is probably not the best place for it, as sexuality is a whole other kettle of fish than gender identity.

 

[JustGeorge]

**Moved to General Debates**​

 

[Kfox]

My partner is nonbinary, and for them this is an acknowledgement that despite having a female biology, they have never felt completely comfortable with feminine pronouns and social expressions. They also do not feel comfortable with the masculine either. They feel like their identity cannot be adequately expressed with a "this or that" option.

So is it a matter of a person who is not comfortable with masculine and femininity expressions non-binary, and those who are comfortable with such expressions binary?

 

[Kfox]

@Kfox ~ If you're not nonbinary, I'm not understanding why this is in a debate forum. I'm also failing to see what this has to do with politics. Are you under the impression that nonbinary is a political affiliation or position?

Perhaps I did put it in the wrong forum, I was just wondering about the difference between a binary person vs non-binary person. I understand binary means 2, is it a case where people who believe gender is binary are called binary people, and people who believe gender is non binary are non binary people? Or am I missing something?

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Perhaps I did put it in the wrong forum, I was just wondering about the difference between a binary person vs non-binary person. I understand binary means 2, is it a case where people who believe gender is binary are called binary people, and people who believe gender is non binary are non binary people? Or am I missing something?

“Why not three?”

Finite Simple Group (of Order Two)​

 

[crossfire]

So is it a matter of a person who is not comfortable with masculine and femininity expressions non-binary, and those who are comfortable with such expressions binary?

A non binary person doesn't conform to social norms of binary (masculine-feminine) gender and will break gender expression "rules."

 

[Kfox]

A non binary person doesn't conform to social norms of binary (masculine-feminine) gender and will break gender expression "rules."

Is that it? A friend of mine is a stay at home dad because his wife makes more money. This does not confirm to social norms, and breaks all of the gender expression rules; yet he does not consider himself non binary.

 

[crossfire]

Is that it? A friend of mine is a stay at home dad because his wife makes more money. This does not confirm to social norms, and breaks all of the gender expression rules; yet he does not consider himself non binary.

Which gender expression rules does he break? Does he conform to a masculine appearance, or does he break those rules? (Women generally have a greater range of socially acceptable gender expression. Women can wear dresses or trousers, but men wearing dresses is oftentimes considered to be "unmanly.")

 

[Kfox]

Which gender expression rules does he break? Does he conform to a masculine appearance, or does he break those rules? (Women generally have a greater range of socially acceptable gender expression. Women can wear dresses or trousers, but men wearing dresses is oftentimes considered to be "unmanly.")

So if a woman doesn't wear makeup and dresses like a tom boy, that's non binary? If binary means 2, where does this fit into the picture?

 

[crossfire]

So if a woman doesn't wear makeup and dresses like a tom boy, that's non binary? If binary means 2, where does this fit into the picture?

It can be a nonbinary expression. Tomboys are generally socially acceptable for women, so she may or may not identify as nonbinary.

 

[Secret Chief]

I told you to do that over an hour ago. Don't you remember?

Sorry, dad.

 

[Secret Chief]

Went to the theatre last night and there was an "All Gender Toilets." (and Recycling Points for used paper and plastic cups!)
The world's gone sensible!

 

[Secret Chief]

Is that it? A friend of mine is a stay at home dad because his wife makes more money. This does not confirm to social norms, and breaks all of the gender expression rules; yet he does not consider himself non binary.

I was non-binary for about 6 years then went back to binary because we needed more money.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Perhaps I did put it in the wrong forum, I was just wondering about the difference between a binary person vs non-binary person. I understand binary means 2, is it a case where people who believe gender is binary are called binary people, and people who believe gender is non binary are non binary people? Or am I missing something?

As I understand it, a binary person identifies as exclusively male or exclusively female, whereas a non-binary person identifies as neither or both.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Is that it? A friend of mine is a stay at home dad because his wife makes more money. This does not confirm to social norms, and breaks all of the gender expression rules; yet he does not consider himself non binary.

Do you mean social norms in 1950?