But if you divorce gender from biology, how do you even know what male/female is?
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By utilizing biological sex. Because sex =\= gender.
Banach-Tarski Paradox
*Banned*
Weren't we discussing the historical configuration of the family earlier?
If you divorce parenthood from biology, how do you know what mother/daughter is?
That makes no sense. The whole point of divorcing gender from biology is to NOT utilize biological sex
Ask that to the guy that divorces parenthood from biology.
That's just silly and no not the point. It's that the physical characteristics (sex) are separated from societal expectations (gender expression).
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
And gender roles today may not apply tomorrow.
Agreed. See post #99 above
Heck, overly feminine women are even harassed sometimes (cat-called, groped, etc.)
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I can agree that physical characteristics are separated from societal expectations. So answer my question already; how do you distinguish man from woman?
List some gender roles of today that may not apply tomorrow.
So you ask why should we distinguish, then you list a couple examples of why we should. I'm sure if you think real hard, you can come up with a few other reasons. My point is, unless there is a distinction, those words become meaningless.
Yup the only times it really matters and all it takes is a simple question. Weird eh?
Having more distinctions than you seem to grasp (by splitting bio sex, from gender), doesn't make it meaningless. You just think it does,
No Substitute for Sex
Increasing use of “gender” as an alternative to “sex,” notably in the humanities, is inappropriate. In essence, sex is biological while gender is cultural.
If it were a matter of asking a simple question, you would have been able to give me an answer. The fact that you can't tells me there is no empirical difference in your view.
Words have meaning. If you don't know the meaning of a word, it is meaningless
McBell
Unbound
Assume much?
Disliking the meaning of a word does not make the the word meaningless.
Not knowing the definition of of word only makes it meaningless to you.
Seems it is you who have a problem understanding the meaning of certain words.
Most every one else do not appear to suffer from that same problem.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
We will have to wait till tomorrow to see what they are.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Since male and female are typically distinguished by their genitals* do we need to know this? Like, should people be forced to socially advertise their genital structures?
@The Hammer brought up sex and medicine, and he's right: but in both cases best practice is good communication. If you are dating someone, get to know them before you sleep with them. There's nothing wrong with a one night stand, it's just risky and if their genital structure is going to be a problem for you, best not to do it, eh?
*Biologically, sex is more complicated than gonads and genetics. There are hormones and brain structures involved, as well as psychological characteristics that these influence. It just seem to be the gonads people get all interested in. They say it's genetics as well, but I don't think anyone would care about that.
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Well, what other reasons? So you will know their pronouns? So you know what is socially acceptable as to how to talk to them or otherwise treat them? How to market to them? To know whether to be flattered or offended if you flirt with each other?