Non-Binary

[Kfox]

How many anti-trans threads can you count just on this small corner of the internet?

The question was who gets razzed by their peers; not people on a debate forum they've never met before.

 

[Kfox]

It’s a long, long list.

I’ve mentioned a couple.

Are you looking for more?

If you want my best guess, you'll need to mention a couple more.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

If you want my best guess, you'll need to mention a couple more.

I added one.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

The question was who gets razzed by their peers; not people on a debate forum they've never met before.

Scroll down, please. All the way to the bottom. Slowly. And read the stories.

2024 isn’t a full year, so I added 2023 as well.

Fatal Violence Against the Transgender and Gender-Expansive Community…

The Human Rights Campaign is both saddened and infuriated by the deaths of at least twenty-seven transgender and gender-expansive people whose lives were…

www.hrc.org

Fatal Violence Against the Transgender and Gender-Expansive Community…

The Human Rights Campaign is both saddened and infuriated by the deaths of at least 32 transgender and gender-expansive people whose lives have been…

www.hrc.org

 

[crossfire]

The question was who gets razzed by their peers; not people on a debate forum they've never met before.

Alright, who gets psychologically persecuted (including online threats, doxing, etc) to the point that their levels of suicide are much higher than the general population?

 

[Kfox]

Scroll down, please. All the way to the bottom. Slowly. And read the stories.

2024 isn’t a full year, so I added 2023 as well.

Fatal Violence Against the Transgender and Gender-Expansive Community…

The Human Rights Campaign is both saddened and infuriated by the deaths of at least twenty-seven transgender and gender-expansive people whose lives were…

www.hrc.org

Fatal Violence Against the Transgender and Gender-Expansive Community…

The Human Rights Campaign is both saddened and infuriated by the deaths of at least 32 transgender and gender-expansive people whose lives have been…

www.hrc.org

The question is who gets harassed by their peers. Peers being your friends, associates, or people who are a part of your group. What do these links have to do with the question at hand?

 

[Kfox]

Alright, who gets psychologically persecuted (including online threats, doxing, etc) to the point that their levels of suicide are much higher than the general population?

Lots of people! But the people doing all of that harm are probably not their peers.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

The question is who gets harassed by their peers. Peers being your friends, associates, or people who are a part of your group. What do these links have to do with the question at hand?

Did you scroll all the way down?

The only way you could know that whatever narrow nitpicky conditions you have were not met would be to actually read all of the stories, and make sure that none of them make it thru your defensive nitpick filter shield.

 

[Kfox]

Did you scroll all the way down?

The only way you could know that whatever narrow nitpicky conditions you have were not met would be to actually read all if the stories, and make sure that none of them make it thru your defensive nitpick filter shield.

Yes, but I didni't spend much time reading it; there was quite a bit to read. What point did I miss?

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Yes, but I didni't spend much time reading it; there was quite a bit to read. What point did I miss?

You missed all of the stories that satisfy whatever conditions you want to set.

Just like you missed when they came for the Mayans.

Just like you missed when they came for the Viachuatans.

Just like you missed when they came for 4 teenage Bkack girls in a car at a rally for that pillow salesman.

Would you like to miss some more?

 

[Kfox]

You missed all of the stories that satisfy whatever conditions you want to set.

Just like you missed when they came for the Mayans.

Just like you missed when they came for the Viachuatans.

Just like you missed when they came for 4 teenage Bkack girls in a car at a rally for that pillow salesman.

Would you like to miss some more?

Were these tragedies committed by their friends? Or common criminals.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

If a person considers themselves to be non-binary, what does that mean? And how is this different from a binary person?

The only way I've made sense of it is thinking of it as a form of androgyny. I never understood the "gender roles" argument because in the West we don't really enforce gender/sex roles anymore like they do in other cultures, and most people don't fit hypermasculine or hyperfeminine stereotypes, anyway. They're unrealistic in the first place. Not fitting gender/sex stereotypes doesn't mean you're not a man or woman.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Which gender expression rules does he break? Does he conform to a masculine appearance, or does he break those rules? (Women generally have a greater range of socially acceptable gender expression. Women can wear dresses or trousers, but men wearing dresses is oftentimes considered to be "unmanly.")

To be fair, dresses are made to fit the female figure, so they're usually unflattering and don't fit correctly on men. They are "unmanly" by design as they're not designed for men in the first place. Women's pants are fitted to women's figures. Maybe make dresses designed for the male figure, I guess. Personally, I don't see the point but I don't see why a man would want to wear a dress in the first place. I know I never did.

 

[crossfire]

The only way I've made sense of it is thinking of it as a form of androgyny. I never understood the "gender roles" argument because in the West we don't really enforce gender/sex roles anymore like they do in other cultures, and most people don't fit hypermasculine or hyperfeminine stereotypes, anyway. They're unrealistic in the first place. Not fitting gender/sex stereotypes doesn't mean you're not a man or woman.

You really hit the nail on the head with the part emphasized above!

Perhaps this is why non binary break these stereotypes with impunity?

 

[crossfire]

To be fair, dresses are made to fit the female figure, so they're usually unflattering and don't fit correctly on men. They are "unmanly" by design as they're not designed for men in the first place. Women's pants are fitted to women's figures. Maybe make dresses designed for the male figure, I guess. Personally, I don't see the point but I don't see why a man would want to wear a dress in the first place. I know I never did.

I'm not a man, but I never wear dresses outside of my house. (I often wear dresses at home because they are comfortable if you don't have to deal with shoes and stockings.)

 

[Kfox]

The only way I've made sense of it is thinking of it as a form of androgyny. I never understood the "gender roles" argument because in the West we don't really enforce gender/sex roles anymore like they do in other cultures, and most people don't fit hypermasculine or hyperfeminine stereotypes, anyway. They're unrealistic in the first place. Not fitting gender/sex stereotypes doesn't mean you're not a man or woman.

Good points.

 

[Kfox]

You really hit the nail on the head with the part emphasized above!

Perhaps this is why non binary break these stereotypes with impunity?

Just about everyone breaks those stereotypes with impunity.

 

[Maninthemiddle]

Identifying as non-binary means that a person's gender identity does not fit within the traditional binary categories of male or female. Non-binary individuals may experience their gender identity as falling somewhere outside of or in between the male and female categories. This can include identifying as a combination of both genders, neither gender, a different gender entirely, or fluctuating between different gender identities.

 

[crossfire]

Just about everyone breaks those stereotypes with impunity.

Indeed. Still, socially considered, women seem to enjoy a much wider socially acceptable latitude than men in this respect.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

You really hit the nail on the head with the part emphasized above!

Perhaps this is why non binary break these stereotypes with impunity?

I don't know what you mean. Feminine men are still put down over it. Even gay men have a stigma against effeminacy to an extent.