Non-theism eh?

[SageTree]

This actually made me decide to ask this to be moved to General debate, because I'm more interested in it from philosophy stand point over the religious implications to Buddhism, specifically.

:namaste
SageTree

Thanks for the moving Mods

 

[Storm]

Ah, I missed the move.

Where were we?

 

[SageTree]

Debates.

 

[Storm]

LOL, I meant in the conversation.

I edited so many of my posts, I can't recall the train of discussion.

 

[SageTree]

oh. LoL.... well... start over maybe or with a fresh mind?
I appreciate the revisit.

 

[Storm]

OK.

I consider myself a non-theist almost solely because I'm a bit anal-retentive about theological terminology.

Theism, to me, implies several theological premises which I reject. In no particular order:
1) Supernaturalism
2) A God separate from Creation
3) An interventionist God.

Since I believe in none of these, I am a non-theist. Simple as that.

 

[Desert Snake]

The article was going fine until the Buddhism/Advaita comparison...huh??

 

[SageTree]

The article was going fine until the Buddhism/Advaita comparison...huh??

Are you saying or asking?

Please do share your opinion either way please.

 

[SageTree]

But I want you to elaborate, so I've started a new thread: http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...2317-storms-non-theism-not-debate-thread.html

OK.

I consider myself a non-theist almost solely because I'm a bit anal-retentive about theological terminology.

Theism, to me, implies several theological premises which I reject. In no particular order:
1) Supernaturalism
2) A God separate from Creation
3) An interventionist God.

Since I believe in none of these, I am a non-theist. Simple as that.

Hey wanted to get back to you Storm. I noticed the link above and forgot that I'd read that read, where you explained yourself very well.

Thanks for that.

:namaste
SageTree

 

[idav]

The dichotomy of the 'by god' 'for god' and 'with god' didn't quite click for me, but I had an interesting thought on theist, atheist, agnostic, non-theist.

In the same order it could be.

Yes there is God
No there isn't God/ Doesn't consider it
There may or may not be a God/ How can I know it?
I don't need to know.

In my view non-theism is not having a belief in a personal god particularly the monotheistic god concept in theology. Interesting article though Buddhism might feel that theological perspective is a non-issue some religions are not so inclined. I think that belief in god can definitely be a hindrance but not always.

 

[Storm]

Welcome.

 

[SageTree]

In my view non-theism is not having a belief in a personal god particularly the monotheistic god concept in theology. Interesting article though Buddhism might feel that theological perspective is a non-issue some religions are not so inclined. I think that belief in god can definitely be a hindrance but not always.

Duality is the thing in theism that I believe is what can become distracting.
God as a thing, in form, separate from yourself, perhaps to generalize it.

Monist non-theism might be apt for me to label myself?
Again, it's ALWAYS just playing with words for experience in my opinion.

Non-theism, to me is partly attempting to not enter into to talking about ''is and isn't'', ''does and doesn't' and just letting God BE.

However, sometimes it's useful/cordial, in the company you're keeping, such as here.

If I was pressed to say 'Is' I'd have to say I experience God as a Verb, a Supreme Way of Being, not a Being itself, to play on words.



I believe that 'seeking' can also be 'finding' at the same time, to use the old adage,
"The journey IS the destination", or the Tolstoy quote "Live seeking God, and then you will not live without God."

I'm not sure where it fits in this paragraph, but I feel that 'talking God' can sometimes be redundant and offer too many details and weighty words to wade through.
That often it ends up being one defending our experiences and how we label it, and that isn't always useful or helpful at all.

Rather, I would say distill the conversation down....

Us talking about this.

I believe it's not what we say that I'd call 'Supreme Way of Being', but rather it's the engaging in the practice of being able to look at why we say what we do.
Being honest with our selves, letting down our walls, hearing another, listening to our hearts.

This is the practice and the goal for me.


So that's a little tangent like I suppose.
Basically, I'm just really interesting in how people attach meaning to the word and how they experience it.

Thanks for your time and look forward to more talking

:namaste
SageTree

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I'm a non-theist, in the sense that I'm not a theist.

Just as I'm an atheist, because I'm not a theist.

Spooky.

 

[SageTree]

I'm a non-theist, in the sense that I'm not a theist.

Just as I'm an atheist, because I'm not a theist.

Spooky.

nah... I get it, words are laden with meaning, even if it's just a simple one.
that is why I asked.
it's not important that I'm a 'non-theist'
most so I'm just curious as to how people use the world about themselves.
so thanks