Nothing Exists Outside Of Spirituality.

[CharmingOwl]

I just had an epiphany. Nothing exists outside of spirituality. The world is not real and is an illusion designed for us to incarnate into for various reasons which are unique to you that only your higher soul would know. So if we incarnate into this world for spiritual reasons, nothing outside of our experience is really secular. I'm not trying to convert atheist people or preach but to be honest, maybe you came down here to practice Atheism or Christianity and I would wrong to try and stop you from doing that. If you came down here to practice a certain religion and were somehow converted, that would actually set you back and you would most likely just redo life until you were able to get it.

From this point of view, it is ironic to be atheistic but I can understand it. When you are a secular person you can devote your time and energy towards material things and success in life. If nothing exists outside of spirituality and someone is atheist in this current lifetime, that means ironically their spiritual journey is atheism. Yes I know the irony is palpable to the point where it is funny.

I have known this for a while but something seems to have just clicked and I feel as though I know now all of the secrets of the universe. Maybe by third eye has opened from Ashwagandha? It's not all sunshine and rainbows because it is apparent how the physical world is a prison compared to the immense freedom and happiness we have in the astral planes. There are bad things down here such as physical violence and other things like that. These things happen either because it is part of our challenges in the current lifetime or a person is struggling to proceed as they are meant to on their spiritual journey. The soul of a person is always okay but anger, anxiety, or other negative energies can hijack their bodies when they identify with the mind. The soul also knows some information that the mind does not, and the soul may not be authorized to give out everything it knows to the mind. This is why people speak in tongues and light languages exist.

 

[Sedim Haba]

I... The soul of a person is always okay ....

How do you know that? I'm quite sure my soul is not OK....

 

[RestlessSoul]

How do you know that? I'm quite sure my soul is not OK....

I believe your soul is the incorruptible part of you. Everything else may be rotten, but there is a spark in you which is perfect.

 

[SalixIncendium]

How do you know that?

I won't speak for @CharmingOwl, but most who know do so base on their own subjective experiences. If you're waiting for some sort of objective evidence, you could find yourself waiting for quite some time.

I'm quite sure my soul is not OK....

Are you quite sure you know your "soul?"

 

[Sirona]

I just had an epiphany. Nothing exists outside of spirituality. The world is not real and is an illusion designed for us to incarnate into for various reasons which are unique to you that only your higher soul would know. So if we incarnate into this world for spiritual reasons, nothing outside of our experience is really secular. I'm not trying to convert atheist people or preach but to be honest, maybe you came down here to practice Atheism or Christianity and I would wrong to try and stop you from doing that. If you came down here to practice a certain religion and were somehow converted, that would actually set you back and you would most likely just redo life until you were able to get it.

From this point of view, it is ironic to be atheistic but I can understand it. When you are a secular person you can devote your time and energy towards material things and success in life. If nothing exists outside of spirituality and someone is atheist in this current lifetime, that means ironically their spiritual journey is atheism. Yes I know the irony is palpable to the point where it is funny.

I have known this for a while but something seems to have just clicked and I feel as though I know now all of the secrets of the universe. Maybe by third eye has opened from Ashwagandha? It's not all sunshine and rainbows because it is apparent how the physical world is a prison compared to the immense freedom and happiness we have in the astral planes. There are bad things down here such as physical violence and other things like that. These things happen either because it is part of our challenges in the current lifetime or a person is struggling to proceed as they are meant to on their spiritual journey. The soul of a person is always okay but anger, anxiety, or other negative energies can hijack their bodies when they identify with the mind. The soul also knows some information that the mind does not, and the soul may not be authorized to give out everything it knows to the mind. This is why people speak in tongues and light languages exist.

New Age authors fill entire books with that kind of stuff, especially if it was channelled by spiritual entities, preferably good ones. Maybe a glorious future as an author is lying ahead of you. Anyway, I think it's interesting they always come to "the same conclusion" independently from each other.

 

[Polymath257]

Interesting. My view is almost the exact opposite. It seems to me that everything is physical, including our emotions, hopes, desires, etc. So all 'spirituality' is simply a denial of the fact that this is all there is.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

If nothing exists outside of spirituality and someone is atheist in this current lifetime, that means ironically their spiritual journey is atheism. Yes I know the irony is palpable to the point where it is funny.

It sounds like you are unfamiliar with the atheist's inner life. As this atheist understands it, spirituality has nothing to do with spirits, which includes gods, angels, and demons. It has to do with a somewhat euphoric sense of connection to the cosmos, a sense of belonging, of mystery, of awe, and of gratitude for being here.

it is apparent how the physical world is a prison compared to the immense freedom and happiness we have in the astral planes

Yet you don't leave that body, and if anything becomes of your body while you are in that mental state, as far as we can tell, it ends. Also, we can reproduce those states with physical agents and processes like fasting, sweat lodges, and hallucinogens attesting to their basis in the material world. Reality is magical as we find it. Mother nature is as close to a god as we need or have, and there is no evidence that it is aware.

 

[Quintessence]

I just had an epiphany. Nothing exists outside of spirituality. The world is not real and is an illusion designed for us to incarnate into for various reasons which are unique to you that only your higher soul would know. So if we incarnate into this world for spiritual reasons, nothing outside of our experience is really secular.

I'm usually more interested in the practical effects an ideology has on how someone lives their way of life because that's what impacts the others around them. In believing everything other than yourself (and possibly also yourself) is illusory, how does that change how you regard and treat others? Since I am part of the world, am I not real in your view? What about the planet you live on? Are you also not real? If nothing is real, what does it mean to be real? What does it mean to be spiritual? How does this impact how you live your day-to-day life?

Don't feel like you need to answer these questions for us here - the answers you come to on your personal journey will have importance for you. I find the practical implications worth thinking about.

 

[Fool]

I just had an epiphany. Nothing exists outside of spirituality. The world is not real and is an illusion designed for us to incarnate into for various reasons which are unique to you that only your higher soul would know. So if we incarnate into this world for spiritual reasons, nothing outside of our experience is really secular. I'm not trying to convert atheist people or preach but to be honest, maybe you came down here to practice Atheism or Christianity and I would wrong to try and stop you from doing that. If you came down here to practice a certain religion and were somehow converted, that would actually set you back and you would most likely just redo life until you were able to get it.

From this point of view, it is ironic to be atheistic but I can understand it. When you are a secular person you can devote your time and energy towards material things and success in life. If nothing exists outside of spirituality and someone is atheist in this current lifetime, that means ironically their spiritual journey is atheism. Yes I know the irony is palpable to the point where it is funny.

I have known this for a while but something seems to have just clicked and I feel as though I know now all of the secrets of the universe. Maybe by third eye has opened from Ashwagandha? It's not all sunshine and rainbows because it is apparent how the physical world is a prison compared to the immense freedom and happiness we have in the astral planes. There are bad things down here such as physical violence and other things like that. These things happen either because it is part of our challenges in the current lifetime or a person is struggling to proceed as they are meant to on their spiritual journey. The soul of a person is always okay but anger, anxiety, or other negative energies can hijack their bodies when they identify with the mind. The soul also knows some information that the mind does not, and the soul may not be authorized to give out everything it knows to the mind. This is why people speak in tongues and light languages exist.

nothing exists outside of consciouness, mind.

nothing exists outside of light/love or love/light.

 

[Jimmy]

Interesting. My view is almost the exact opposite. It seems to me that everything is physical, including our emotions, hopes, desires, etc. So all 'spirituality' is simply a denial of the fact that this is all there is.

What does infinite space look like physically?

 

[Polymath257]

What does infinite space look like physically?

How does the term 'physically' change the question?

I don't know if space is infinite or not. And if it is, it looks like infinite space.

 

[Jimmy]

How does the term 'physically' change the question?

I don't know if space is infinite or not. And if it is, it looks like infinite space.

Got outta that one nicely. Haha

 

[Jimmy]

How does the term 'physically' change the question?

I don't know if space is infinite or not. And if it is, it looks like infinite space.

It's ok. No one can answer that question anyway.

 

[CharmingOwl]

Interesting. My view is almost the exact opposite. It seems to me that everything is physical, including our emotions, hopes, desires, etc. So all 'spirituality' is simply a denial of the fact that this is all there is.

I agree. And to be honest I am sure that some new age people like myself will be atheists for a while in the next lifetime in order to be more grounded and present in the physical reality. Despite what you hear it's not good to be extremely spiritual all the time because if you are not grounded in the physical reality and the sciences, it is possible that your soul will leave your body or you can lose your mind. In the next lifetime I will probably need to start as an atheist in the beginning and depending how successful Lavenderism is either rediscover it or move on to something new. I really hope I reincarnate into a Lavenderist family because that would make it a whole lot easier to get back into the things I am in now. If I ascend enough maybe I will not even need to forget past life memories and I can just log back into Reddit from the next life to keep posting things.

 

[Wildswanderer]

I just had an epiphany. Nothing exists outside of spirituality. The world is not real and is an illusion designed for us to incarnate into for various reasons which are unique to you that only your higher soul would know. So if we incarnate into this world for spiritual reasons, nothing outside of our experience is really secular. I'm not trying to convert atheist people or preach but to be honest, maybe you came down here to practice Atheism or Christianity and I would wrong to try and stop you from doing that. If you came down here to practice a certain religion and were somehow converted, that would actually set you back and you would most likely just redo life until you were able to get it.

From this point of view, it is ironic to be atheistic but I can understand it. When you are a secular person you can devote your time and energy towards material things and success in life. If nothing exists outside of spirituality and someone is atheist in this current lifetime, that means ironically their spiritual journey is atheism. Yes I know the irony is palpable to the point where it is funny.

I have known this for a while but something seems to have just clicked and I feel as though I know now all of the secrets of the universe. Maybe by third eye has opened from Ashwagandha? It's not all sunshine and rainbows because it is apparent how the physical world is a prison compared to the immense freedom and happiness we have in the astral planes. There are bad things down here such as physical violence and other things like that. These things happen either because it is part of our challenges in the current lifetime or a person is struggling to proceed as they are meant to on their spiritual journey. The soul of a person is always okay but anger, anxiety, or other negative energies can hijack their bodies when they identify with the mind. The soul also knows some information that the mind does not, and the soul may not be authorized to give out everything it knows to the mind. This is why people speak in tongues and light languages exist.

Sounds very gnostic.
I would say that there is Spirit and body and the two combined is a living soul.
We are not only our bodies, we are two distinct beings, physical and spiritual.
The body dies, the spirit lives on.
The physical can effect the Spirit and vice versa, but the two are very different.

 

[Polymath257]

It's ok. No one can answer that question anyway.

I don't even know what kind of answer you want.

What does finite space look like? As far as I can see, the question makes no sense.