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Now that the FDA has approved the vaccine has it changed your mind?

Will you get the vaccine now?

  • Yes. I got it before the FDA approval

    Votes: 17 73.9%
  • Yes. Now that the FDA has approved it I will. But not before

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No. I don't think the FDA approval is legitimate.

    Votes: 6 26.1%

  • Total voters
    23

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
You should be wary of studies done in India and then ignoring what the CDC, NIH, & WHO says. It makes not iota of sense to ignore the latter three in light of tens of thousands of people tested and now millions of vaccines already administered.

Just because some talking head on Fox tells you that taking worming medicine for cows and horses are all fine & dandy and then to ignore the CDC especially, why would anyone serious about the science and their own health do that?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
All of these agencies have a history of being influenced, if not outright controlled by special interest industry money.
No doubt that's somewhat true about the WHO but far less the case with the CDC and NIH.

And what makes you believe that any other sources is supposedly better? Pfizer took no money from the Trump administration to develop their vaccine to purposefully not allow such influence.

On top of this, apparently you're totally unaware of people getting sick and going to hospitals after taking the Fox's talking-head's "remedies".

Bottom line: If one believes in the likes of Carlson, Hannity, and Ingraham over the CDC and the NIH, they're playing with their own lives and that of others as well.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
The "testimony" was from March 2021. It was from a cardiologist.

I wonder how many Texans stayed unvaccinated because of the testimony of this cardiologist and have died as a result.

If there are people who take immunology advice from a cardiologist - oh well.

He is also an epidemiologist, and internist at Baylor University College of Medicine. In April 2020 he formed an international coalition of physicians, researchers, and epidemiologists from medical centers in the US, Italy, India, Brazil, and other countries to share knowledge and clinical outcome studies concerning what was working around the world to help treat patients In the early stages of the illness to reduce hospitalization and deaths.

No doubt he has many more years of clinical practice experience than Dr. Fauci.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
No doubt that's somewhat true about the WHO but far less the case with the CDC and NIH.

And what makes you believe that any other sources is supposedly better? Pfizer took no money from the Trump administration to develop their vaccine to purposefully not allow such influence.

On top of this, apparently you're totally unaware of people getting sick and going to hospitals after taking the Fox's talking-head's "remedies".

Bottom line: If one believes in the likes of Carlson, Hannity, and Ingraham over the CDC and the NIH, they're playing with their own lives and that of others as well.
I don’t watch Fox News, or listen to Hannity, Ingraham. Occasionally, have heard Carlson. Anyway, what really makes you think you know more than they do? I check and compare news and information from a wide variety of sources. So you can stop bringing up Fox. I personally don’t appreciate Fox.
From my research, there have been some cases of people using the animal form of ivermectin and ending up in the hospital, but not nearly the exaggerated numbers put out their by the mainstream news media. And why are there any cases at all? Ivermectin has been available for human use for years. As well, it is very common for doctors to use medications off label if they are confident such use will benefit their patients. But now the government agencies have politicized everything, in an attempt to prevent doctors and patients access to the human form , so some resort to using the animal form.
I think it’s important to ask why is the government shutting down access to an inexpensive drug that has been shown to be safe for many years. And don’t forget to look at the big picture and follow the money.
Pfizer and Moderna have already made billions and billions in profit and will continue to do so with the rollout of boosters.

Column: Pfizer, Moderna expect billions in profits from COVID vaccines. That's a scandal

Pfizer and Moderna could make $32 billion off Covid-19 vaccines next year alone - CNN


So although every clinic, pharmacy or grocery store may have a sign out saying, “Free Covid vaccinations”, they are not free. Huge amounts of taxpayer dollars pay for them.
 
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InChrist

Free4ever


“Similarly, with respect to ivermectin prophylaxis of frontline workers and those at risk, controlled observational studies from Bangladesh and Argentina (the latter which involved 1195 health care workers) have shown apparent reductions in COVID-19 transmission with ivermectin prophylaxis, including in some reports total protection (zero infections) where infection rates in the control group exceeded 50%.122,123 A very large trial of ivermectin prophylaxis in health care workers in India124 covered 3532 participants and reported risk ratios not significantly different from this meta-analysis (prophylaxis outcome).”

Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Occasionally, have heard Carlson. Anyway, what really makes you think you know more than they do?
Myriads of "Scientific American" articles on the subject, and my background is in science. What do you think Carlson's background is in that makes him qualified? Matter of fact, why would you even pay attention to him anyway?

Maybe do some reading from actual scientific sources, eh.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Pfizer and Moderna have already made billions and billions in profit and will continue to do so with the rollout of boosters.
Because they work, and this is not speculation.

BTW, my wife & I got our Pfizer booster two weeks ago because of the well-established benefit of taking the vaccine.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
“Similarly, with respect to ivermectin prophylaxis of frontline workers and those at risk, controlled observational studies from Bangladesh and Argentina (the latter which involved 1195 health care workers) have shown apparent reductions in COVID-19 transmission with ivermectin prophylaxis, including in some reports total protection (zero infections) where infection rates in the control group exceeded 50%.122,123 A very large trial of ivermectin prophylaxis in health care workers in India124 covered 3532 participants and reported risk ratios not significantly different from this meta-analysis (prophylaxis outcome).”

Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines
Flawed ivermectin preprint highlights challenges of COVID drug studies
 

ecco

Veteran Member
I think it’s important to ask why is the government shutting down access to an inexpensive drug that has been shown to be safe for many years. And don’t forget to look at the big picture and follow the money.

  1. Please show evidence that the government has shut down access to ivermectin.
  2. Yes indeed, let's follow the money. The covid shots cost you nothing. Ivermectin is not free. Who is making the money off of Ivermectin? Who is promoting Ivermectin?

Do you remember the doctor in Europe who "proved" childhood vaccines cause autism? He made a lot of money from books and speaking tours before he got shut down. Sadly, more people know about and still believe his (flawed) study than know about and believe the findings that he was a liar and scammer In the meantime, unvaccinated children are getting sick and spreading diseases.

observational studies from Bangladesh and Argentina
some reports


You might want to read this article.
Flawed ivermectin preprint highlights challenges of COVID drug studies

The paper summarized the results of a clinical trial seeming to show that ivermectin can reduce COVID-19 death rates by more than 90%1 — among the largest studies of the drug’s ability to treat COVID-19 to date. But on 14 July, after internet sleuths raised concerns about plagiarism and data manipulation, the preprint server Research Square withdrew the paper because of “ethical concerns”.
The paper’s irregularities came to light when Jack Lawrence, a master’s student at the University of London, was reading it for a class assignment and noticed that some phrases were identical to those in other published work. When he contacted researchers who specialize in detecting fraud in scientific publications, the group found other causes for concern, including dozens of patient records that seemed to be duplicates, inconsistencies between the raw data and the information in the paper, patients whose records indicate they died before the study’s start date, and numbers that seemed to be too consistent to have occurred by chance.

You really need to ask yourself why you believe BS studies from unknown sources from foreign countries.
You really need to ask yourself why you believe snakeoil salesmen rather than science.

Perhaps it is because your religious indoctrination against science is so deep.
 
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