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Now that the FDA has approved the vaccine has it changed your mind?

Will you get the vaccine now?

  • Yes. I got it before the FDA approval

    Votes: 17 73.9%
  • Yes. Now that the FDA has approved it I will. But not before

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No. I don't think the FDA approval is legitimate.

    Votes: 6 26.1%

  • Total voters
    23

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
I don't think not trusting this FDA approval is the same thing as "distrusting the science". If your government gives 100% immunity to the companies who are manufacturing this drug (profiting billions from it), and then the same government says it is safe to take, its the government that is sowing the seeds of distrust, not science. IMO. But again, the FDA and "science" have nothing to do with why I have not been vaccinated yet. I'm not getting it, because I don't need it. It's the same reason I don't get the flu shot.
Do you believe the FDA receives direction from the federal government or the POTUS in its decisionmaking?

Or do you simply not have that kind of differentiated view on government institutions to begin with, and all public institutions are just part of a faceless monolithic bloc of "the government" to you?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Excerpted (underlining added)....
Paul Hunter, Professor in Medicine at the University of East Anglia and an expert in infectious diseases, told the Committee: “The concept of herd immunity is unachievable because we know the infection will spread in unvaccinated populations.....

It also addresses, as we already know and as the title said, "Vaccines don't stop transmissions" - would you like more medical evidence?

" because the vaccines don’t prevent infection and transmission"
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Could you quote the part of the article that talks about natural immunity. I don’t see that.
1) You said natural immunity doesn't stop it... my response is that vaccines don't stop it either, muting your position.
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We Never Know

No Slack
Excerpted (underlining added)....
Paul Hunter, Professor in Medicine at the University of East Anglia and an expert in infectious diseases, told the Committee: “The concept of herd immunity is unachievable because we know the infection will spread in unvaccinated populations.....

“Will we get to herd immunity? No, very unlikely, by definition,” said Greg Poland, director of the Vaccine Research Group at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota.

Even a vaccination rate of as high as 95% wouldn’t achieve it, he said. “It is a neck and neck race between the development of ever more highly transmissible variants which develop the capacity to evade immunity, and immunization rates.”

The World May Never Reach Herd Immunity Against Covid-19
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It also addresses, as we already know and as the title said, "Vaccines don't stop transmissions" - would you like more medical evidence?

" because the vaccines don’t prevent infection and transmission"
I'm continually amazed that vaccines lacking 100%
efficacy is used to dismiss them as useful.
Have you ever been vaccinated...which ones?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
“Will we get to herd immunity? No, very unlikely, by definition,” said Greg Poland, director of the Vaccine Research Group at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota.

Even a vaccination rate of as high as 95% wouldn’t achieve it, he said. “It is a neck and neck race between the development of ever more highly transmissible variants which develop the capacity to evade immunity, and immunization rates.”

The World May Never Reach Herd Immunity Against Covid-19
Is lack of herd immunity a reason to eschew vaccination?
If anything, this would be good reason to get the shots (IMO).
It reduces severity of Covid 19 in those who come down with it.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Is lack of herd immunity a reason to eschew vaccination?
If anything, this would be good reason to get the shots (IMO).
It reduces severity of Covid 19 in those who come down with it.
Who is eschewing vaccination? Not me.
As I've said many many times....if anyone wants or needs the vaccine, by all means get it.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
I'm continually amazed that vaccines lacking 100%
efficacy is used to dismiss them as useful.
Have you ever been vaccinated...which ones?
Maybe you read more into it than what I said? The context was by the poster who is pushing vaccines even IF you have already been naturally vaccinated.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Maybe you read more into it than what I said? The context was by the poster who is pushing vaccines even IF you have already been naturally vaccinated.
"Naturally vaccinated" is oxymoronic.
And the phrase does suggest eschewing actual vaccination.

BTW, if I'd had Covid, I'd still get the shots.
Low risk hedging of bets.
 
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