Nudity and/or Sexualized Nudity - Dangerous? Immoral? Taboo?

[CynthiaCypher]

Nudity in and of itself is not sexual. Lots of earlier societies lived in the nude, and they weren't having sex any more than any other society. I remember reading about some sculpter on the other hand whose specialty was nudes. Someone asked him if he ever got aroused. His answer was, 'only when I try to put clothes ON them."

Violence, on the other hand, is an entirely different problem.

I don't care if earlier societies lived in the nude. I don't live in your paradise of the nude noble savage. I live in America, and in America we have sexualized everything and everyone in order to sell everything. Young children are sexualized by society and as a parent I feel that not only is it my right but it is my duty to protect them. I do not want my kids to see a bunch of narcissistic exhibitionists parading around in the nude, some of which probably get more than a little titillated at the thought of showing kids their genitals. It is my duty to protect my kids from perverts.

 

[4consideration]

That doesn't even make sense.

about the rest, if we lived in a world where sex isnt treated like it is and nudity was natural, then you have a point, but we dont so CC has a right to not wish to expose her kids to that.
who is anyone to tell anyone else how to raise their kids anyway?

People who don't have kids.

 

[kashmir]

I know this is sort of off topic, never the less, I watched a doc about some small island that really has nothing to offer vacationists and such, but yet rich businessmen constantly flew there and such.
They decided to investigate and went undercover and talked to the men, turned out they went there for the prostitution, and not only that, it was deemed normal to sell their own kids for sex, from toddlers and up.
The kids even knew how to do the math, yumm yumm $5, you want 3 its $15, boom boom $10, you want 2 girls, $20.( don't remember the actual costs)
Humanitarians got involved and forced the gov to do something, they then took their hidden camera footage back to the USA and ruined the lives of all the men they had info on.
Good for them too.

Why did I post this?
These same men could be going to nudist resorts, do you really want to subject kids to that?
If adults want to go nude, ok, but not the kids, not in todays world.
Nudist colonies are a completely diff situation.
Only real nudists can join, no single men, and considering the docs I have seen about them, it is perfectly natural and well maintained.
No one walks around looking at other people junk, its as natural to them as looking at a finger or a mouth because their whole lives are that way, their grandparents parents were, and so forth.
Its not just some random people such as us, going to such a place, we would not be allowed in.

 

[Vinayaka]

It is my duty to protect my kids from perverts.

As it is mine, and we did.

But perverts are perverts, regardless of the nudity factor. There is some sort societal socialisation disability going on to make someone a pervert. Sex offenders come from all walks of life, including the clergy, unfortunately.

Many church goers have had to figure that one out the hard way, most unfortunately for the children involved.

 

[columbus]

I didn't even read the whole OP much less all the posts. So maybe I am repeating.

Nudity and violence have one thing in common. They are both arousing so they sell. The human body is beautiful and violence is ugly but they both sell.

If I choose to go to a nude beach, or just the locker room at the local pool, I expect to see nudity. Not at the hardware store or on TV . It is a matter of personal autonomy. It isn't about sex. I like all human bodies, whatever shape, gender, color, or age. But they are arousing, or attention grabbing if you prefer. Restrictions on nudity in media give me the freedom to choose for myself my experience in day to day life.


I just wish there were more restrictions on violence in media. I find much of it nauseating. The description of Star Gate is enough to prevent me ever watching.

I think the difference is that it is easier to restrict nudity. Either a pair of breasts or penis show or not. There isn't much gray area. Violence is a much broader subject. Does an off screen murder count? Does showing the weapon hit count? Blood spurts? The gray area is vastly larger and it sells as well as nudity. So violence is considered unregulable, while nudity remains a premium product.

Tom

 

[Sunstone]

These same men could be going to nudist resorts, do you really want to subject kids to that?

Nudist and clothing optional resorts are pretty good at policing themselves, in my experience.

If adults want to go nude, ok, but not the kids, not in todays world.

Um...most nudist and clothing optional resorts around here admit families with children.

Only real nudists can join, no single men....

There are plenty of single men who are real nudists. Just so you know.

 

[columbus]

Nudist and clothing optional resorts are pretty good at policing themselves, in my experience.



Um...most nudist and clothing optional resorts around here admit families with children.



There are plenty of single men who are real nudists. Just so you know.

Some are a lot better than others.
I've wound up at a couple of open air swingers clubs, when that wasn't my intention at all.

Tom

 

[Sunstone]

Some are a lot better than others.
I've wound up at a couple of open air swingers clubs, when that wasn't my intention at all.

Tom

Most of the places around here have websites you can go to in order to find out what kind of places they are ahead of time.

 

[kashmir]

Nudist and clothing optional resorts are pretty good at policing themselves, in my experience.

Um...most nudist and clothing optional resorts around here admit families with children.

not what I am talking about
nudist colonies are a diff spectrum altogether.
Comparing the two would be like comparing vegans and meat eaters.
night and day.

There are plenty of single men who are real nudists. Just so you know.

Has nothing to do with nudist colonies rules.

Some are a lot better than others.
I've wound up at a couple of open air swingers clubs, when that wasn't my intention at all.

Tom

exactly
which is why nudist colonies are a whole different subject altogether.

 

[columbus]

Most of the places around here have websites you can go to in order to find out what kind of places they are ahead of time.

I stopped going before there was much of an internet.
And I have noticed that internet promotion isn't much more accurate than older forms of media.



Tom

 

[Sunstone]

not what I am talking about
nudist colonies are a diff spectrum altogether.
Comparing the two would be like comparing vegans and meat eaters.
night and day.





Has nothing to do with nudist colonies rules.

Source(s)?

 

[kashmir]

Source(s)?

seriously?

I am just adding what I know to be true, for my perspective.
Google takes 18 secs,

I am not here to convince people of discussion topics, just adding what I know.
Perhaps if you read up on the sites, you will get a different perspective.
This isn't really worth huge debating, and me proving myself or you agreeing.

off topic, whats kind of cute of nudist colonies, is when they have beauty contests, they paint themselves with flowers and such.
but its cute and shows tons of artwork abilities.

gotta love it

 

[Sunstone]

seriously?

I am just adding what I know to be true, for my perspective.
Google takes 18 secs,

You sure you're not making things up? Because I tried Google and didn't find much, if anything, to support for your claim.

 

[Father Heathen]

Sex and nudity are natural. As is violence, but obviously we want to prevent real violence from occurring, as it causes death and suffering. However, I don't think fictional depictions of violence are cause for concern. In other words, I don't think boobies and bombs are going to cause little Timmy any psychological damage.

 

[kashmir]

You sure you're not making things up? Because I tried Google and didn't find much, if anything, to support for your claim.

I have nothing to prove to you.

 

[Alceste]

I know this is sort of off topic, never the less, I watched a doc about some small island that really has nothing to offer vacationists and such, but yet rich businessmen constantly flew there and such.
They decided to investigate and went undercover and talked to the men, turned out they went there for the prostitution, and not only that, it was deemed normal to sell their own kids for sex, from toddlers and up.
The kids even knew how to do the math, yumm yumm $5, you want 3 its $15, boom boom $10, you want 2 girls, $20.( don't remember the actual costs)
Humanitarians got involved and forced the gov to do something, they then took their hidden camera footage back to the USA and ruined the lives of all the men they had info on.
Good for them too.

Why did I post this?
These same men could be going to nudist resorts, do you really want to subject kids to that?
If adults want to go nude, ok, but not the kids, not in todays world.
Nudist colonies are a completely diff situation.
Only real nudists can join, no single men, and considering the docs I have seen about them, it is perfectly natural and well maintained.
No one walks around looking at other people junk, its as natural to them as looking at a finger or a mouth because their whole lives are that way, their grandparents parents were, and so forth.
Its not just some random people such as us, going to such a place, we would not be allowed in.

Is there a prize for the most ridiculous reasoning in the thread? If so, I'd like to nominate this post.

 

[kashmir]

Is there a prize for the most ridiculous reasoning in the thread? If so, I'd like to nominate this post.

What is ridiculous?
You would take you kids to a nudist resort where pervs can join up freely?
That can be the only thing I can gather why you are saying my example means nothing?

Why do people on this board seem to enjoy attacking the person rather than debate the post content? :sarcastic

if its ridiculous reasoning, can you explain why?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

In India there used to be no such thing as a sari top... and then the Europeans came
In North America, many native tribes spent tons of time in the nude .... and then the Europeans came
In Hawaii, Tahiti, and most of Polynesia, the people wore no clothes ... and then the Europeans came ...

Anybody see a pattern?

Mmhmm. I talked about that a bit here:

Druidus is right. Humans only started wearing clothes when we started living in colder climates. It was just for survival purposes then. The tribal people who stayed around the equator, where it's very hot, stayed nude or mostly nude. When Europeans came into contact with those people, they forced them into wearing European clothes and made them feel shame over their nudity. Some of the imperialists later regretted what they did to the native peoples and said they were as innocent as Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden and that the Europeans made them sinful.

 

[Vinayaka]

I just heard the ad on Canuckistan TV where the Blue Jays ball player speaks against sexual predators ... it starts with ... "Did you know that 90% of all sexual predators of children have no criminal record?"

Quite the jump from simple nudity to that.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

As it is mine, and we did.

But perverts are perverts, regardless of the nudity factor. There is some sort societal socialisation disability going on to make someone a pervert. Sex offenders come from all walks of life, including the clergy, unfortunately.

Many church goers have had to figure that one out the hard way, most unfortunately for the children involved.

So-called "perversion" is probably a reaction in the subconscious mind to a sexually repressed society. When something is taboo and it's a natural desire, the mind will have problems processing it and becomes more attractive to it.

Just look at how some people have these warped ideas about nudity. Because they've been socialized in a sexually repressive manner and the human body is usually hidden behind clothes, the nude body because "forbidden" and what is forbidden is always titillating. So it's really a projection of their own inner angst and frustrations.