Nudity and/or Sexualized Nudity - Dangerous? Immoral? Taboo?

[Alceste]

What is ridiculous?
You would take you kids to a nudist resort where pervs can join up freely?
That can be the only thing I can gather why you are saying my example means nothing?

Why do people on this board seem to enjoy attacking the person rather than debate the post content? :sarcastic

if its ridiculous reasoning, can you explain why?

Pervs can join anything freely. I'd be more concerned about sending kids on a Catholic field trip than taking them to the nude beach.

In fact, it's common for people to take their kids to the nude beach where I live, or even to a normal beach and let them run around nude. Kids love running around nude in the sun.

 

[Alceste]

So-called "perversion" is probably a reaction in the subconscious mind to a sexually repressed society. When something is taboo and it's a natural desire, the mind will have problems processing it and becomes more attractive to it.

Just look at how some people have these warped ideas about nudity. Because they've been socialized in a sexually repressive manner and the human body is usually hidden behind clothes, the nude body because "forbidden" and what is forbidden is always titillating. So it's really a projection of their own inner angst and frustrations.

I agree. The cure for that is to go outside and take your clothes off.

 

[kashmir]

Is there a prize for the most ridiculous reasoning in the thread? If so, I'd like to nominate this post.

I agree, your reasoning is ridiculous...
Nominate yourself, I will second it

Pervs can join anything freely. I'd be more concerned about sending kids on a Catholic field trip than taking them to the nude beach.

Hmmm
your logic....
1) pervs can join anything freely (you admit)
2)You rather take them somewhere and strip them naked, when 1) is a factor then where people are clothed. where 1) can still be a factor
(your reasoning)



if anyone is deserving of what you said(ridiculous post), it surly isn't me.
Catholic churches wasn't even part of my previous post either

mine was about nudist colonies(where they all grew up together and serious restrictions apply to who can join) vrs nudist resorts(where anyone can come and go)
what does Catholics even have to do with what I said?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I agree. The cure for that is to go outside and take your clothes off.

Maybe one day.

 

[Vinayaka]

Pervs can join anything freely. I'd be more concerned about sending kids on a Catholic field trip than taking them to the nude beach.

According to this A Profile of the Child Molester and Grooming Techniques | Child Lures Prevention/Teen Lures Prevention study, 49% of victims under aged 6 were family members.

But boy we need to watch out for those nudists!

Just as a side note, I personally could never do nudism, its just not in my makeup at all, I'm just way too shy and modest. I'm the kid who really hated showering in high school. I'm still shy in front of my wife of 39 years, for Pete's sake.

 

[kashmir]

According to this A Profile of the Child Molester and Grooming Techniques | Child Lures Prevention/Teen Lures Prevention study, 49% of victims under aged 6 were family members.

But boy we need to watch out for those nudists!

Just as a side note, I personally could never do nudism, its just not in my makeup at all, I'm just way too shy and modest. I'm the kid who really hated showering in high school. I'm still shy in front of my wife of 39 years, for Pete's sake.

Have you ever had dreams you were naked and no one else was, and its like no one noticed, but they did and you knew they did?
Kind of like having a booger in your nose and others dont wanna embarrass you by telling you its there?

I haven't, just wondering if you have

 

[Vinayaka]

Have you ever had dreams you were naked and no one else was, and its like no one noticed, but they did and you knew they did?
Kind of like having a booger in your nose and others dont wanna embarrass you by telling you its there?

I haven't, just wondering if you have

Nope, but I knew a colleague (teacher) who used to. She'd dream of teaching buck naked, but the kids didn't notice. She'd tell it before work, just so we'd all have a laugh.

This explores the 'Don't talk to strangers!" myth. http://www.aftab.com/index.php?page=common-sexual-predator-ploys

 

[kashmir]

Nope, but I knew a colleague (teacher) who used to. She'd dream of teaching buck naked, but the kids didn't notice. She'd tell it before work, just so we'd all have a laugh.

This explores the 'Don't talk to strangers!" myth. Aftab - Common Ploys Sexual Predator Use To Lure Children

hmmm, if a teacher had those dreams, wonder what it means.

 

[Vinayaka]

hmmm, if a teacher had those dreams, wonder what it means.

Not much.

 

[Brickjectivity]

...My question is why? Why is nudity seen as so dangerous; why is it denigrated so d*** much? It’s how we’re born; how we evolved! Why would it be so deplorable for a child (or an adult) to see a naked body, when all of the abominations in the list above are completely cool/acceptable? Why is nudity somehow seen as worse than violence, death, torture, gore, atrocities, etc.? I truly don’t get it, it makes no sense to me....

My guesses are jealousy, religion, culture and parental instincts.

 

[Valjean]

I don't care if earlier societies lived in the nude. I don't live in your paradise of the nude noble savage. I live in America, and in America we have sexualized everything and everyone in order to sell everything. Young children are sexualized by society and as a parent I feel that not only is it my right but it is my duty to protect them. I do not want my kids to see a bunch of narcissistic exhibitionists parading around in the nude, some of which probably get more than a little titillated at the thought of showing kids their genitals. It is my duty to protect my kids from perverts.

It is the lack of exposure to non-sexualized nudity that allows these kids to be sexualized in the first place. We make nudity fascinating by hiding it, by teaching that it's naughty and forbidden. Expose kids to casual nudity from an early age and the sight of a topless woman mowing the lawn won't merit a second glance.

You say this liberal attitude's being unrealistic and that kids must be protected from the world as it is. Might our grandparents not have voiced these same reservations about exposing kids to the sight of a woman's leg? But women pressed on, and now legs no longer shock. And consider beach wear. What's considered modest today would have caused riots in the olden days.

If you want to put a damper on our society's neurotic obsession with sex, casual nudity may be just the ticket.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

It is the lack of exposure to non-sexualized nudity that allows these kids to be sexualized in the first place. We make nudity fascinating by hiding it, by teaching that it's naughty and forbidden. Expose kids to casual nudity from an early age and the sight of a topless woman mowing the lawn won't merit a second glance.

You say this liberal attitude's being unrealistic and that kids must be protected from the world as it is. Might our grandparents not have voiced these same reservations about exposing kids to the sight of a woman's leg? But women pressed on, and now legs no longer shocking. And consider beach wear. What's considered modest today would have caused riots in the olden days.

If you want to put a damper on our society's neurotic obsession with sex, casual nudity may be just the ticket.

Do you have kids?

 

[Brickjectivity]

In India there used to be no such thing as a sari top... and then the Europeans came
In North America, many native tribes spent tons of time in the nude .... and then the Europeans came
In Hawaii, Tahiti, and most of Polynesia, the people wore no clothes ... and then the Europeans came ...

Anybody see a pattern?

What about the Greeks, Romans, the Chinese and the Japanese? Do they fit the pattern?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What about the Greeks, Romans, the Chinese and the Japanese? Do they fit the pattern?

They're not tribal people, so no.

 

[Alceste]

Do you have kids?

Objection: relevance.

 

[Valjean]

Do you have kids?

LOL -- I have cats. They run around nude all day, and are not in the least shocked when I step out of the shower.

Seriously, though. I don't understand your question, unless you think an emotional response has some bearing on the case.

Emotions don't change facts.

 

[Gehennaite]

I can think back to when my mother or stepfather would have nudity or sex on TV and I can recall walking out of the room at ~9 years old. I found it highly disturbing and very offensive. I also hated seeing either of my parents naked.

Human violence, on the other hand, is typically so obviously fake that regardless of how graphic it becomes, my conscience can recover swiftly from any mild dissonance it causes. As long as it is not torturous, I can adjust. Animal violence is another subject altogether, however - it always disturbs me whether real or fake (unless its fakeness is to the point of comical).

At this point, I refuse to watch film & television altogether. I've had my fair share of it and I'm fed up. I'll stick to picking & choosing various works on youtube.

If I want to experience sexuality, it's on my terms, not theirs. I'm not afraid to admit that I do dabble in it, and I have very specific interests. There's a time & place for everything, IMO... and I have ways of dealing with that "time & place" when it comes to sexuality. I don't need to be anymore frustrated than I am with it...

 

[CynthiaCypher]

LOL -- I have cats. They run around nude all day, and are not in the least shocked when I step out of the shower.

Seriously, though. I don't understand your question, unless you think an emotional response has some bearing on the case.

Where do you get off telling me what is good for my kids when you don't have any? I live in a society that has sexualized everything, I live in a society where there are exhibitionists and sorts of perverts out there. It is my duty to protect my children from whatever I think they need to be protected from. I don't want my kids expose to human grossness. If you want to run around naked, do so in private or where that is accepted. The rest of us do not want to see it.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Where do you get off telling me what is good for my kids when you don't have any? I live in a society that has sexualized everything, I live in a society where there are exhibitionists and sorts of perverts out there. It is my duty to protect my children from whatever I think they need to be protected from. I don't want my kids expose to human grossness. If you want to run around naked, do so in private or where that is accepted. The rest of us do not want to see it.

Just because you have kids, doesn't make you an expert on healthy parenting. For one thing, I'm glad you're not my mother.

 

[kashmir]

LOL -- I have cats. They run around nude all day, and are not in the least shocked when I step out of the shower.

my cat when he sees a nude human