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Obama Deploying More Troops To Aid In The Fight Against The Taliban

esmith

Veteran Member
Seems I again screwed up...again. Forgot to add the word Taliban to the subject line.

Seems that the Obama has decided he should have listened to his military advisers. Now the ridiculous statement "will not be participate in combat operations.” Is for all practical purposes bull****. If you read further into the article you will see this statement
"“They’ll be equipped with advanced weaponry, they’ll have better air support and they can fight well alongside the A.N.S.F. They’ll inflict extensive pressure on the enemy.”
Sort of conflicting statements.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/10/world/asia/us-troops-helmand-province-afghanistan.html?_r=0
 

Kori

Dark Valkyrie...what's not to love?
Seems I again screwed up...again. Forgot to add the word Taliban to the subject line.

Seems that the Obama has decided he should have listened to his military advisers. Now the ridiculous statement "will not be participate in combat operations.” Is for all practical purposes bull****. If you read further into the article you will see this statement
"“They’ll be equipped with advanced weaponry, they’ll have better air support and they can fight well alongside the A.N.S.F. They’ll inflict extensive pressure on the enemy.”
Sort of conflicting statements.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/10/world/asia/us-troops-helmand-province-afghanistan.html?_r=0

I guess he will leave ISIL to the Russians. Smart move.
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Seems I again screwed up...again. Forgot to add the word Taliban to the subject line.

Seems that the Obama has decided he should have listened to his military advisers. Now the ridiculous statement "will not be participate in combat operations.” Is for all practical purposes bull****. If you read further into the article you will see this statement
"“They’ll be equipped with advanced weaponry, they’ll have better air support and they can fight well alongside the A.N.S.F. They’ll inflict extensive pressure on the enemy.”
Sort of conflicting statements.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/10/world/asia/us-troops-helmand-province-afghanistan.html?_r=0
So. . . . . you're in favour of this move by Obama?
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
"The new troops will replace another unit that was already in Afghanistan, the official said, and will not add to the total number of American troops in the country, which stands at roughly 9,800." -- quote from same article

“Our mission,” Colonel Lawhorn said, “remains the same: to train, advise, and assist our Afghan counterparts, and not to participate in combat operations.” -- quote from same article
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
Seems I again screwed up...again. Forgot to add the word Taliban to the subject line.
FYI: I am pretty sure there is a word limit for titles. It catches me sometimes when I am posting articles.
 

Kori

Dark Valkyrie...what's not to love?
"The new troops will replace another unit that was already in Afghanistan, the official said, and will not add to the total number of American troops in the country, which stands at roughly 9,800." -- quote from same article

“Our mission,” Colonel Lawhorn said, “remains the same: to train, advise, and assist our Afghan counterparts, and not to participate in combat operations.” -- quote from same article

So the Mission is to waste money and get nothing done. This pic is in Spanish but it's the USSR vs the USA in terms of women in Afghanistan.
 

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Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
"The new troops will replace another unit that was already in Afghanistan, the official said, and will not add to the total number of American troops in the country, which stands at roughly 9,800." -- quote from same article

“Our mission,” Colonel Lawhorn said, “remains the same: to train, advise, and assist our Afghan counterparts, and not to participate in combat operations.” -- quote from same article
Since when is it a good idea to read the entire article? You mean, you don't read until you find your argument and stop? Psh, amateur!
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
These troops will be moved into the Helmand province where the A.N.S.F. is getting their butts kicked by the Taliban because they do not have the resources to counter them. I'll go with General Keane of what the problem is:
http://thecipherbrief.com/article/gen-keane-afghanistan-security-situation-deteriorating

Oh by the way, if you don't think these troops will not come under fire I've go some swampland in Florida for sale.
My problem with your post is you provide a statement, under heavy bias, when the very same source you provide to support your statement, counters it.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
My problem with your post is you provide a statement, under heavy bias, when the very same source you provide to support your statement, counters it.
Yes, especially since this is the second paragraph in the quite covered in the OP: U.S. conventional forces are no longer involved in ground combat as they now perform a “train and assist” mission with the Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF). Special Operations Forces (SOF) are performing counterterrorism missions, targeting Taliban leadership. U.S. force levels are down from a high of 100 thousand during the surge in 2010/11, to 9,800 in 2015, with that number expected to drop to 5,500 by the end of 2016.

Here's the kicker: if he responds to changing conditions, he's "ridiculous" according to the OP, but if he doesn't respond to changing conditions, then the word "ridiculous" probably would undoubtedly be used against him again. That's just the nature of mind-numbing anti-Obama-ism. But when Romney flip-flopped on many items, I doubt if the same standard was used by some here.

 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
These troops will be moved into the Helmand province where the A.N.S.F. is getting their butts kicked by the Taliban because they do not have the resources to counter them. I'll go with General Keane of what the problem is:
http://thecipherbrief.com/article/gen-keane-afghanistan-security-situation-deteriorating

Oh by the way, if you don't think these troops will not come under fire I've go some swampland in Florida for sale.
And when did Obama say that they wouldn't? Anytime there's an occupation force, there's gonna be risks.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
My question is: Why is it America's job to deal with all terrorism around the globe?
It serves our international interests and it is in an effort to protect our allies. I am sure there is a lot more to it than that, but that is what immediately comes to mind.
 

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
It serves our international interests and it is in an effort to protect our allies. I am sure there is a lot more to it than that, but that is what immediately comes to mind.

I don't recall anyone crying out for protection against ISIS that's a bona fide ally of America.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
I don't recall anyone crying out for protection against ISIS that's a bona fide ally of America.
France might not have come right out and asked, but we certainly have a responsibility to stand with her.
 

Wirey

Fartist
My question is: Why is it America's job to deal with all terrorism around the globe?

Because the last time America became isolationist 6 millions Jews turned into soot. Most people would like to avoid round 2 of that. And unfortunately, you guys built all those guns, so.......
 

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
Because the last time America became isolationist 6 millions Jews turned into soot. Most people would like to avoid round 2 of that. And unfortunately, you guys built all those guns, so.......

I think you're missing out the part where the Russians and British did most of the work in combatting that particular event.
 
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