Obama is just an utter disaster for this world

[Pegg]

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His recklessnes and idiocy is tearing the world apart.

He is in way over his head.

i think there are plenty of rulers tearing the world apart....

Psalm 146:3 Do not put your trust in princes
Nor in a son of man, who cannot bring salvation.
*4 His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground;
On that very day his thoughts perish

 

[YmirGF]

OK, thanks for that. The thing that I had a problem with in regards to what you posted dealt with the statement that Obama was aiding Hamas as a terrorist organization, and as I mentioned to CMike, there is no evidence that I've seen of a direct connection to Hamas or that these funds had anything to do with any U.S. support of terrorism. I don't lump humanitarian aid into that category.

Hahahahaha. You don't seriously believe, for a second, that the terrorist faction will not benefit from this "humanitarian aid", seriously?

 

[CMike]

We can fight the war in the middle east or we can fight the war within America.
Originally Posted by CMike
That's what a lot of people thought.

911 showed us that the US is vulnerable.

Again, what's this WE stuff? Are you personally going to be over there in that 140 degree desert fighting this war?

By we I mean America.

 

[CMike]

So the president to have done the most damage to Islamic terroist groups, captured the most leaders of Al queda, killed Osama Bin Ladin, used more military force than any recent president during a peacetime....is exuding weakness and needs to man up?

What course of action is it exactly (not result mind you COURSE OF ACTION) do you think he should have done that would have made you change your mind about him?

OBL was killed because of intelligence that was obtained during the Bush presidency which Obama condemned the method.

Obama completely withdrew form Iraq. As a result there was a vacuum and ISIS took over. Gee...how unpredictable.

 

[CMike]

It reminds me of this.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202804003885630&set=vb.1366776940&type=2&theater

 

[dust1n]

That's what a lot of people thought.

911 showed us that the US is vulnerable.

We can fight the war in the middle east or we can fight the war within America.

Okay, you can go fight whatever war you want to. But, don't expect me to fund it.

 

[CMike]

OK, thanks for that. The thing that I had a problem with in regards to what you posted dealt with the statement that Obama was aiding Hamas as a terrorist organization, and as I mentioned to CMike, there is no evidence that I've seen of a direct connection to Hamas or that these funds had anything to do with any U.S. support of terrorism. I don't lump humanitarian aid into that category.

You might find this interesting.

» Hamas Condemned For Stealing Majority Of Humanitarian Aid During Recent Gaza War To Sell On Black Market

Hamas Condemned For Stealing Majority Of Humanitarian Aid During Recent Gaza War To Sell On Black Marke

 

[Monk Of Reason]

OBL was killed because of intelligence that was obtained during the Bush presidency which Obama condemned the method.

Obama completely withdrew form Iraq. As a result there was a vacuum and ISIS took over. Gee...how unpredictable.

So let me get this strait. Obama didn'g get OBL because the plan was rendered under Bush so its not Obama's win. BUT at the same time for Obama to continue on the plan that was set out to move out of Iraq (exactly as it was set out under Bush) is Obama's fault?

 

[icehorse]

BTW, I believe we pulled out of Iraq because of an agreement that Bush signed, no?

Also, I'm getting the feeling that nation building in the ME isn't quite as easy as politicians have been telling us. I think that watching for a while is a FANTASTIC strategy.

 

[esmith]

So let me get this strait. Obama didn'g get OBL because the plan was rendered under Bush so its not Obama's win. BUT at the same time for Obama to continue on the plan that was set out to move out of Iraq (exactly as it was set out under Bush) is Obama's fault?

No Obama did not "get" OBL, Seal Team Six and supporting military, and intelligence assets took out OBL. Obama was just President at the time all the pieces came together.
As far as Iraq goes, Obama could have cared less about what the results of his decision not to press for a SOFA agreement. It was strictly a political and ideological move. We broke Iraq and failed to insure that it was stable prior to pulling military assets out of country. The same has occurred in Libya an will occur in Afghanstain.

 

[CMike]

No Obama did not "get" OBL, Seal Team Six and supporting military, and intelligence assets took out OBL. Obama was just President at the time all the pieces came together.
As far as Iraq goes, Obama could have cared less about what the results of his decision not to press for a SOFA agreement. It was strictly a political and ideological move. We broke Iraq and failed to insure that it was stable prior to pulling military assets out of country. The same has occurred in Libya an will occur in Afghanstain.

Bingo!

 

[YmirGF]

Bingo!

What got me is that he agonized over to decision to kill Osama Bin Hiding for hours... I'd have thought it would have been a standing order.

 

[CMike]

What got me is that he agonized over to decision to kill Osama Bin Hiding for hours... I'd have thought it would have been a standing order.

Good point as well.

 

[metis]

Hahahahaha. You don't seriously believe, for a second, that the terrorist faction will not benefit from this "humanitarian aid", seriously?

You need to reread what I had wrote, focusing especially on the provision I said should be done. Secondly, do you honestly believe that an even more desperate Palestinian people really will stop them from lashing out against Israel and the west, especially since Hamas' approval rating prior to this recent conflict was believed to be down to around 15%?

Israel did what it had to do, imo, but letting the Palestinian people starve and denying them medical help ain't gonna help anyone there or here.

 

[metis]

No Obama did not "get" OBL, Seal Team Six and supporting military, and intelligence assets took out OBL. Obama was just President at the time all the pieces came together.
As far as Iraq goes, Obama could have cared less about what the results of his decision not to press for a SOFA agreement. It was strictly a political and ideological move. We broke Iraq and failed to insure that it was stable prior to pulling military assets out of country. The same has occurred in Libya an will occur in Afghanstain.

Please tell us how many troops do you think we should have in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and whatever else country you think we should be in, plus tell us how many years or/and decades we should remain there, iyo?

While you're at it, do you actually remember why we left no troops in Iraq?

 

[metis]

What got me is that he agonized over to decision to kill Osama Bin Hiding for hours... I'd have thought it would have been a standing order.

The risks were very high, and if it failed more Americans would be lost.

 

[esmith]

The risks were very high, and if it failed more Americans would be lost.

I will give you an answer to your previous statements when I have a concise answer. As far as the above....that was what we were and are paid to do. Anyone who is a member of the military or covert intelligence realize that it is your job to put your life on the line. Remember "Freedom is not free".

 

[Maldini]

SO is Obama supposed to go around and bomb half of the world? If you're an american saying this then I'm sorry for you.

 

[metis]

I will give you an answer to your previous statements when I have a concise answer. As far as the above....that was what we were and are paid to do. Anyone who is a member of the military or covert intelligence realize that it is your job to put your life on the line. Remember "Freedom is not free".

But any military operation must balance the risks that are involved.

 

[McBell]

No Obama did not "get" OBL, Seal Team Six and supporting military, and intelligence assets took out OBL. Obama was just President at the time all the pieces came together.
As far as Iraq goes, Obama could have cared less about what the results of his decision not to press for a SOFA agreement. It was strictly a political and ideological move. We broke Iraq and failed to insure that it was stable prior to pulling military assets out of country. The same has occurred in Libya an will occur in Afghanstain.

Bingo!

The hypocrisy is comical