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Obama Stimulus Plan | Hidden Medical Provisions

Trey of Diamonds

Well-Known Member
Did you know that H.R. 1 EH was hidden within Obama's stimulus plan? Do you think it's a good idea or does it worry you?

Ruin Your Health With the Obama Stimulus Plan: Betsy McCaughey


Commentary by Betsy McCaughey
Bloomberg.com: Opinion

Feb. 9 (Bloomberg) -- Republican Senators are questioning whether President Barack Obama’s stimulus bill contains the right mix of tax breaks and cash infusions to jump-start the economy.

Tragically, no one from either party is objecting to the health provisions slipped in without discussion. These provisions reflect the handiwork of Tom Daschle, until recently the nominee to head the Health and Human Services Department.

Senators should read these provisions and vote against them because they are dangerous to your health. (Page numbers refer to H.R. 1 EH, pdf version).

The bill’s health rules will affect “every individual in the United States” (445, 454, 479). Your medical treatments will be tracked electronically by a federal system. Having electronic medical records at your fingertips, easily transferred to a hospital, is beneficial. It will help avoid duplicate tests and errors.

But the bill goes further. One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446). These provisions in the stimulus bill are virtually identical to what Daschle prescribed in his 2008 book, “Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis.” According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and “learn to operate less like solo practitioners.”

Keeping doctors informed of the newest medical findings is important, but enforcing uniformity goes too far.

New Penalties

Hospitals and doctors that are not “meaningful users” of the new system will face penalties. “Meaningful user” isn’t defined in the bill. That will be left to the HHS secretary, who will be empowered to impose “more stringent measures of meaningful use over time” (511, 518, 540-541)

What penalties will deter your doctor from going beyond the electronically delivered protocols when your condition is atypical or you need an experimental treatment? The vagueness is intentional. In his book, Daschle proposed an appointed body with vast powers to make the “tough” decisions elected politicians won’t make.

The stimulus bill does that, and calls it the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research (190-192). The goal, Daschle’s book explained, is to slow the development and use of new medications and technologies because they are driving up costs. He praises Europeans for being more willing to accept “hopeless diagnoses” and “forgo experimental treatments,” and he chastises Americans for expecting too much from the health-care system.

Elderly Hardest Hit

Daschle says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt.

Medicare now pays for treatments deemed safe and effective. The stimulus bill would change that and apply a cost- effectiveness standard set by the Federal Council (464).

The Federal Council is modeled after a U.K. board discussed in Daschle’s book. This board approves or rejects treatments using a formula that divides the cost of the treatment by the number of years the patient is likely to benefit. Treatments for younger patients are more often approved than treatments for diseases that affect the elderly, such as osteoporosis.

In 2006, a U.K. health board decreed that elderly patients with macular degeneration had to wait until they went blind in one eye before they could get a costly new drug to save the other eye. It took almost three years of public protests before the board reversed its decision.

Hidden Provisions

If the Obama administration’s economic stimulus bill passes the Senate in its current form, seniors in the U.S. will face similar rationing. Defenders of the system say that individuals benefit in younger years and sacrifice later.

The stimulus bill will affect every part of health care, from medical and nursing education, to how patients are treated and how much hospitals get paid. The bill allocates more funding for this bureaucracy than for the Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force combined (90-92, 174-177, 181).

Hiding health legislation in a stimulus bill is intentional. Daschle supported the Clinton administration’s health-care overhaul in 1994, and attributed its failure to debate and delay. A year ago, Daschle wrote that the next president should act quickly before critics mount an opposition. “If that means attaching a health-care plan to the federal budget, so be it,” he said. “The issue is too important to be stalled by Senate protocol.”

More Scrutiny Needed

On Friday, President Obama called it “inexcusable and irresponsible” for senators to delay passing the stimulus bill. In truth, this bill needs more scrutiny.

The health-care industry is the largest employer in the U.S. It produces almost 17 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product. Yet the bill treats health care the way European governments do: as a cost problem instead of a growth industry. Imagine limiting growth and innovation in the electronics or auto industry during this downturn. This stimulus is dangerous to your health and the economy.

(Betsy McCaughey is former lieutenant governor of New York and is an adjunct senior fellow at the Hudson Institute. The opinions expressed are her own.)
 

lunamoth

Will to love
Why oh why can't we presnt plans that are just one topic without all the hidden pork?

It takes a long time to examine health bill measure like that, and on surface that one looks bad.

The stimulus plan needs to be passed.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I'm really starting to think Obama will finish killing what's left of our economy. Those in charge desperately need to realize making more money only makes things worse. Hopefully he'll accomplish enough in his environment and energy plans to make up for sending us into the next depression.
 

Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
One of the more disturbing things I've read... I hope, and will be contacting my senator to express this opinion, that this is removed, and that that would be a non-negotiable position...
 

Wandered Off

Sporadic Driveby Member
Why oh why can't we present plans that are just one topic without all the hidden pork?
One reason: Because the President lacks line-item veto power... On balance I think the LIV would help, but it may confer too much power to the President - maybe a good debate for another thread.
 

Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
Trey, do you know where I could find the bill in pdf version(so I could match up pages and read it as it is in)?
 

lunamoth

Will to love
One reason: Because the President lacks line-item veto power... On balance I think the LIV would help, but it may confer too much power to the President - maybe a good debate for another thread.
Why do we have to have line items anyway?

Why not pass each thing seperately?
 

lunamoth

Will to love
I suspect the logistics of increasing an omnibus budget bill, for example, from one vote to tens of thousands of votes would be impractical.
Maybe or maybe not because they'd spend a lot less time having to decide what is in and what is out and re-voting.

At least it would seem possible to combine things that make sense together into smaller packages, but even then the chance for pork would be large.
 

Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
The reason is because you are more likely to get something like this passed if it is tacked onto a bill considered necessary...

Want money? Tack it onto a tax break bill, if people don't pass it, you don't point out the appropriation, you say "These people do not want to lower your taxes"... Same thing here, "These people don't want to stimulate the economy", when that is not the issue at all...

Thanks Trey ;)
 

Mathematician

Reason, and reason again
I'm really starting to think Obama will finish killing what's left of our economy. Those in charge desperately need to realize making more money only makes things worse. Hopefully he'll accomplish enough in his environment and energy plans to make up for sending us into the next depression.

Deficit spending can and does work when it's used correctly. The benefit of new money has to outdo the inflation. Deficit spending on wars is one of the easiest and most convincing ways of stimulating the economy, but it has long-term affects such as recessions. One dollar introduced into the economy can, in some situations, produce three dollars (damns are a notorious example of getting bang for your buck).
 
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Stellify

StarChild
I just read that article a few hours ago with my room mate...
It pretty much just horrified us.

I'm about to go look into another thread on this, so I'll try not to derail overmuch, but...a friend said it seemed to him like a lot of the stimulus money wasn't going to really be going into the economy, anyways...more to senators and such..?
I'm still educating myself on this subject, but from everything I've seen so far, I really hope this doesn't pass. :no:
 

jamaesi

To Save A Lamb
Daschle says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt.

What the hell does this mean? I have many conditions (herniated discs, spinal stenosis, degenerative disc disease, bone loss in my hip/knee, a couple types of arthritis) that you really don't get until you're older, and I'm 21 (and been like this since my preteens). Are we just supposed to crawl in a hole and die somewhere so healthy people can get health care?
 
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