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OK, listen up rest of the English speaking world!

Nepenthe

Tu Stultus Es
Whoah, you're way out of my league now, history man. When it comes to the war of 1812, if it isn't in that Arrogant Worms tune, I don't know it. :p (But yeah, the Indian act is a definite :()
Thanks a load Alceste... You ruined my fake-pseudointellectual-pretentious-guy-who-pretends-to-be outraged-at-everything-online post!
;)

eta: sorry Jeremiah- won't derail again. I swear. :)
 

DadBurnett

Instigator
Zee or Zed ... It seems to me that the English peoples first used Zed and all the others you have mentioned are the onces who have since changed the way "we" say it ... what makees "our" way right and the originator's way wrong?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
And the word is regardless not irregardless.
Actually Blaise, I was quite shocked to discover that irregardless is considered a real word, though I would not suggest that people use the term.

Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: \ˌir-i-ˈgärd-ləs\
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
Date: circa 1912
nonstandard : regardless

usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
It is zee, not zed.

Come on Canadians, Australians and English speaking Europeans, say it with me..."zee".

Definately
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Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Actually Blaise, I was quite shocked to discover that irregardless is considered a real word, though I would not suggest that people use the term.

Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: \ˌir-i-ˈgärd-ləs\
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
Date: circa 1912
nonstandard : regardless

usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.

Well, of course it's a real word. People use it. That doesn't mean it's one that should be used, though. "Ain't" is in the dictionary, too. When you add a syllable to the beginning and it doesn't change the meaning of the word, it's a good sign that you should just use the original word.

Also, it's a nice day to take a dog for a walk so that it can get its exercise.
 

MSizer

MSizer
Actually from anthropological viewpoint, language is in a continuous effort to simplify itself. So, I think Zee will eventually prevail. People will fight it for sure though, "cuz that's how we've always done it".
 

Jeremiah

Well-Known Member
Actually from anthropological viewpoint, language is in a continuous effort to simplify itself. So, I think Zee will eventually prevail. People will fight it for sure though, "cuz that's how we've always done it".

"So, I think Zee will eventually prevail."


:yes: That's right, because we have Sesame Street on our side.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member

Jeremiah

Well-Known Member
Actually from anthropological viewpoint, language is in a continuous effort to simplify itself. So, I think Zee will eventually prevail. People will fight it for sure though, "cuz that's how we've always done it".

In seriousness, though, if that is the case and language is on a path of simplification then all these rhythming letters need to go.
 

Onkara

Well-Known Member
And it is not "anyways" it is "anyway" and you don't go on "holidays" you go on "holiday".

Now I have zed it I feel much better. :)
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Typical American arrogance. We believe we're the standard all others must be measured against.

"Zee" is an americanism. The rest of the English-speaking world uses 'zed.' In Atlanta you'd generally hear zee, in Adelaide, zed, but either would be understood in either place.

Language is constantly changing, and every place has its regionalisms. Regional vocabulary isn't wrong, just regional. Actually it's remarkable how homogenous the English language has become. Regional dialects of some langueges are almost mutually unintelligible.
 
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