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Oklahoma gun store and range declares itself a ‘Muslim-free’ zone

Skwim

Veteran Member
A sign of things to come?


OKLAHOMA CITY (RNS) A gun range in Oktaha, a small town near Muskogee, has joined a growing list of U.S. businesses that advertise themselves as “Muslim-free.”

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Gun range manager Chad Neal, a medically discharged veteran who was deployed to Iraq in 2003, said last month’s shooting at the military recruiting station in Chattanooga, Tenn., prompted him to hang the sign in the door of the business, called Save Yourself Survival and Tactical Gear.

“I didn’t want any terrorists, or Muslims, cult, whatever you want to call them, training on my gun range,” Neal said. “There is a military recruiting station in the mall in Muskogee, and I thought this was one thing I could do to help protect our local soldiers.”

The Council on American-Islamic Relations tracks businesses that ban Muslims, and it called for the U.S. Department of Justice to investigate.

“It is clear to us that the establishment of Muslim-free zones is a violation of the law,” said Nihad Awad, executive director of CAIR. “There are clear laws that prohibit discrimination based on religion. This kind of thing is in violation of the U.S. Constitution and the American spirit of respect for the rule of law.”

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columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Didn't another failing gun store down south try this about a year ago?

Does this shop just want to send all those Muslim terrorists who doubtless live in Chattanooga, TN to their competition? That is not the American Way, in my opinion.
Tom
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
A sign of things to come?


OKLAHOMA CITY (RNS) A gun range in Oktaha, a small town near Muskogee, has joined a growing list of U.S. businesses that advertise themselves as “Muslim-free.”
muslimfree.jpg
Gun range manager Chad Neal, a medically discharged veteran who was deployed to Iraq in 2003, said last month’s shooting at the military recruiting station in Chattanooga, Tenn., prompted him to hang the sign in the door of the business, called Save Yourself Survival and Tactical Gear.

“I didn’t want any terrorists, or Muslims, cult, whatever you want to call them, training on my gun range,” Neal said. “There is a military recruiting station in the mall in Muskogee, and I thought this was one thing I could do to help protect our local soldiers.”

The Council on American-Islamic Relations tracks businesses that ban Muslims, and it called for the U.S. Department of Justice to investigate.

“It is clear to us that the establishment of Muslim-free zones is a violation of the law,” said Nihad Awad, executive director of CAIR. “There are clear laws that prohibit discrimination based on religion. This kind of thing is in violation of the U.S. Constitution and the American spirit of respect for the rule of law.”

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I would love to know what those clear laws are.

Anyways.

Its a private establishment, and would anyone blame them considering what is currently going on with Muslims in the world today?
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
There are too many today who hate American values and this guy is another one.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Its a private establishment, and would anyone blame them considering what is currently going on with Muslims in the world today?
Yeah. I'll call him a puke because that's what he is. Clearly he is blaming all Muslims for groups like ISIS and Boko Haraam, but he would probably never think of blaming all Christians for groups like P-IRA or Eastern Lightning. No mater what, your fellow American citizens still pose a far greater danger to you than a Muslim extremist. And while we have a problem with discrimination against Muslims, we have dingbats like that guy showing those at risk for joining, or acting on behalf of groups like ISIS, that we do hate them.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
I would love to know what those clear laws are.

Anyways.

Its a private establishment, and would anyone blame them considering what is currently going on with Muslims in the world today?
"The entire United States is covered by the Federal Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits discrimination by privately owned places of public accommodation on the basis of race, color, religion or national origin. Places of “public accommodation” include hotels, restaurants, theaters, banks, health clubs and stores. Nonprofit organizations such as churches are generally exempt from the law.

So, no matter where you live, you cannot deny service to someone because of his or her race, color, religion, national origin or disability.
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
"The entire United States is covered by the Federal Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits discrimination by privately owned places of public accommodation on the basis of race, color, religion or national origin. Places of “public accommodation” include hotels, restaurants, theaters, banks, health clubs and stores. Nonprofit organizations such as churches are generally exempt from the law.

So, no matter where you live, you cannot deny service to someone because of his or her race, color, religion, national origin or disability.
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Seems the religious aspect is in notable jeopardy these days concerning private owners. On one side, there are those who refuse services based on religious belief while conversely others refuse based on religious disposition.
 

Deathbydefault

Apistevist Asexual Atheist
I'm always curious as to why these people aren't required to take basic law and government classes in school.
I took 2 semesters of government (because I enjoy it) but it was an elective course.
Sad that the education system allows people like this to be produced.

The issue of him being anti-Muslim is different, of course.
I'm not trying to justify him here, but, I suppose it's possible that his views were caused by war.
It's possible that he could be a victim as well, with an incorrect perspective.
Maybe he could be persuaded out of his position, shown that people he fought in war do not represent all Muslims.

I dunno, just a thought.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
A sign of things to come?r the rule of law.”
The linked article's author alludes to a "growing list", but doesn't present one.
I've been in many gun stores, & I've yet to see such a sign, so I suspect it's pretty rare.
Perhaps it seems otherwise because it gets media attention whenever it occurs, eh?
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
The linked article's author alludes to a "growing list", but doesn't present one.
I've been in many gun stores, & I've yet to see such a sign, so I suspect it's pretty rare.
Perhaps it seems otherwise because it gets media attention whenever it occurs, eh?
Not necessarily in gun stores, but stores in general.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So...he doesn't want Muslims "training on my gun range" but is OK with people like John Russell and Dylann Storm Roof coming in to train?
John Russell the actor?
He died in '91.
Anyway, I presume that his banning one group of people (Muslims), doesn't mean he approves of everyone outside the group.
Fun illustrative example.....
I banned my workers from smoking in tenants' houses.
This doesn't mean I allow other kinds of imbibing, eg, injecting heroin, getting their drink on.
Who's doing all these mass shootings in the United States? Muslims? Or crazy white guys? http://shootingtracker.com/wiki/Mass_Shootings_in_2015
We have a rainbow of mass murderers.....Xian, Muslim, male, female, etc.
 

Smart_Guy

...
Premium Member
I can't believe some people hate all of us (therefore hate me) this much.
Such news ruin my day for good. Enough RF for today.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
I can't believe some people hate all of us (therefore hate me) this much.
Such news ruin my day for good. Enough RF for today.
Hey, there's always going to someone, or more, who hates "your kind" no matter what kind you are.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I can't believe some people hate all of us (therefore hate me) this much.
Such news ruin my day for good. Enough RF for today.
You shouldn't worry about such things.
Everyone is hated by someone somewhere.
Consider......I have people IRL & on RF who hate me guts,
while you're loved (alas, not romantically) by all who know you..
Can't do better than that!
 
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