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Old, I know, but I HATE Palin!

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angellous_evangellous

Guest
its not unreasonable. americans have a history of electing idiots. after all, we just spent 8 years with W.

This is an all new low.

They may as well have a nutless monkey with a sign around its neck - "abortion bad" - flip it over - "i luv guns."

Everyone hug a neo-con or they'll make the threat good and vote for her!
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
The Sarah Palin phenomenon is simply more proof that the neo-cons are determined to destroy their party at all costs. With Bush, they succeeded with ruining the nation, now on to the party.

If Palin doesn't work, there's always a more rotten fish.
 

JMorris

Democratic Socialist
The Sarah Palin phenomenon is simply more proof that the neo-cons are determined to destroy their party at all costs. With Bush, they succeeded with ruining the nation, now on to the party.

If Palin doesn't work, there's always a more rotten fish.

well, i understand your sarcasm. but their certainly not trying to destroy their own party, their trying to change america into a Theocratic Nationalist Corporate state. and since the 80s they have done a pretty good job of that. because of them, the Democrats have had to move their own positions towards the right.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
well, i understand your sarcasm. but their certainly not trying to destroy their own party, their trying to change america into a Theocratic Nationalist Corporate state. and since the 80s they have done a pretty good job of that. because of them, the Democrats have had to move their own positions towards the right.

haha - I'm not being sarcastic in the least. Bush made the Republican platform completely untenable by enacting Reagan's economic policies that destroyed the economy, and using the Republican party machine to enact foreign policies that destroyed Iraq and with it all diplomatic credibility of the United States.

The only people that Palin appeals to are the die-hard numbskulls who don't want to take responsibility for Reagan's failures but are afraid to whisper the name of Bush. The last thing our country needs is an insane attempt to apply the same policies that are known to have immensely destructive outcomes ... which is why "neo-cons" love Palin, despite her complete lack of any kind of substance.
 

JMorris

Democratic Socialist
haha - I'm not being sarcastic in the least. Bush made the Republican platform completely untenable by enacting Reagan's economic policies that destroyed the economy, and using the Republican party machine to enact foreign policies that destroyed Iraq and with it all diplomatic credibility of the United States.

The only people that Palin appeals to are the die-hard numbskulls who don't want to take responsibility for Reagan's failures but are afraid to whisper the name of Bush. The last thing our country needs is an insane attempt to apply the same policies that are known to have immensely destructive outcomes ... which is why "neo-cons" love Palin, despite her complete lack of any kind of substance.

i agree with you for the most part. but i disagree that the neo-cons cant come back. its what they thought of the Democrats, and yet here we are. we have ALOT of stupid people in this country, and i wouldnt put it past them to elect Palin. intelligence and substance didnt matter for Bush, why would you assume it would for Palin? all it would take is for america to be attacked again, or for Obama to really screw up. and then we'd all be living under President Palin.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
i agree with you for the most part. but i disagree that the neo-cons cant come back. its what they thought of the Democrats, and yet here we are. we have ALOT of stupid people in this country, and i wouldnt put it past them to elect Palin. intelligence and substance didnt matter for Bush, why would you assume it would for Palin? all it would take is for america to be attacked again, or for Obama to really screw up. and then we'd all be living under President Palin.

Bush comes from money, has a Harvard MA (the first President to have one), used to own the Texas Rangers, was the gov of Texas, the son of a President, and several failed businesses. He may be a moron, but he's a well placed one with tons of powerful friends, and many rich and powerful folks can identify with him. He could also at least pretend like he knew what he was talking about in some of his early debates.

Palin can match this with seeing Russia from her home, and barely knowing at least one or two neo-con talking points. Not even a sentence, just a phrase. "No abortion." "No education." "No economy."

Her complete lack of anything close to a political career demonstrates just how seriously neo-cons take themselves and their cause. It's pathetic.
 
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JMorris

Democratic Socialist
Bush comes from money, has a Harvard MA (the first President to have one), used to own the Texas Rangers, was the gov of Texas, the son of a President, and several failed businesses. He may be a moron, but he's a well placed one with tons of powerful friends, and many rich and powerful folks can identify with him. He could also at least pretend like he knew what he was talking about in some of his early debates.

Palin can match this with seeing Russia from her home, and barely knowing at least one or two neo-con talking points. Not even a sentence, just a phrase. "No abortion." "No education." "No economy."

Her complete lack of anything close to a political career demonstrates just how seriously neo-cons take themselves and their cause. It's pathetic.

i see your points. but i still wouldnt be surprised to see Palin elected. i might be jaded tho, i come from texas, so..........yea
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
i see your points. but i still wouldnt be surprised to see Palin elected. i might be jaded tho, i come from texas, so..........yea

haha - I'd be floored.

I was expecting for her to slip back into obscurity after McCain lost the election.

She was chosen as a gimmick by someone who doesn't even represent "mainstream" Republican values. I mean, McCain was not a serious contender for the Republican party, and chose her because he wanted someone attractive to bring him his coffee. She ain't goin' nowhere because some villiage idiot said that she could actually run for President in 2012. Nope. No way.

Just because the well-to-do Republicans didn't want to "come to the party" in 2008 with a serious campaign doesn't mean that they won't do it in 2012. McCain was only a candidate, and by extention Palin, because Republicans didn't want to waste money, time, and effort to take the campaign seriously in 2008. They quietly handed the Presidency to the Democrats on a silver platter this time around, obviously trying to sweep Bush's monumental failures under the rug.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Palin is a joke - mostly funny - but when she's talked up as a "serious" candidate, the depth of the tragedy of stupidity is exposed.

If you want to see her in leadership, put her in charge of a sandbox where nothing matters if the castles get destroyed. Celebrate destruction where nothing is lost if you're hell-bent on kicking over stuff that little kids care about. Sand castles are meant to be temporary and the kids will have the sense enough not to go back there. But don't destroy a nation that people spend their lives building something that they intend to last, where people would rather not leave, but fight to make it better.
 

Comicaze247

See the previous line
No one in Alaska is wanting to kill all the Wolves.
Well Palin sure is giving some incentive for that to happen.
YouTube - Sarah Palin's Ongoing Wolf Slaughter
Go to 0:35, or watch the whole thing.

The herds have to be thinned. If for some reason their numbers where few, they would be protected. Animal management makes for a healthy balance of all species where they have a habitat that can support them. When the numbers of any species gets out of hand, they are the first to suffer.
And who exactly upset the balance?

People in Alaska know what they are doing, they don't need the lower 48 telling them what to do. It takes a rugged individual to live up there.
I don't doubt that.

At any given time, a 2000 pound moose could walk up to them. Alaskans want to preserve their heritage and responsibly manage their resources. Harvesting wolves is part of that responsible management.
There are other ways of doing so.
YouTube - Keeping Wolves Out of Harm's Way
 

Comicaze247

See the previous line
I have family in Alaska, My information comes from them. Your low opinion of the level of my Intel does not affect the validity of my statements.
If you knew, and were friends with, liberals in Alaska (I'm assuming you're not considering your hostility towards liberals) and therefore created a balanced opinion, then I would find more validity in your statements.

You know, in my almost 60 years on this planet, I have learned things by actually experiencing them first hand in the real world. It is a shame that most people now rely on the internet for everything.
Well, since we younguns can't instantly gain 60 years experience, what would you rather have us do? Just take the word of every older person? Or research for ourselves? :rolleyes:
 

Comicaze247

See the previous line
All I know is, you can not just let one species devour everything else and multiply beyond what your habitat will sustain.
the way humans have?
This.

Yes, he is correct when he says the problem will solve it's self, but that is way more cruel than animal management ever was.
Yes, because we humans can provide better solutions than nature itself, which was here loooong before us. Or to put it in other words, we humans can provide a better solution to the system that "God" created than "God" can, right? ;)
 

JMorris

Democratic Socialist
People in Alaska know what they are doing, they don't need the lower 48 telling them what to do. It takes a rugged individual to live up there.

I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK.
I sleep all night and I work all day.

Chorus:
He's a lumberjack and he's OK
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

I cut down trees, I eat my lunch
I go to the lavat'ry.
On Wednesdays I go shopping and have buttered scones for tea

Mounties:
He cut down trees, he eat his lunch
He go to the lavatory.
On Wednesdays he go shopping and has buttered scones for tea.

Chorus:
He's a lumberjack and he's OK
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

I cut down trees, I skip and jump
I like to press wild flowers.
I put on women's clothing and hang around in bars.

Mounties:
He cuts down trees, he skips and jumps
He likes to press wild flowers.
He puts on women's clothing and hangs around in bars?!

Chorus:
He's a lumberjack and he's OK
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

I cut down trees, I wear high heels
Suspenders and a bra.
I wish I'd been a girlie, just like my dear papa!

Mounties:
He cuts down trees, he wears high heels?!
Suspenders...and a bra?!
 

JMorris

Democratic Socialist
have you guys seen this whole Palin vs. Letterman thing? its retarded, shes accusing him of saying those things about her 14 yr old daughter, when its obvious to anyone with even HALF a brain that he was talking about the older one, Bristol, the one that actually got preggers and is 18.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
sarah-palin-statue-of-liberty-hunting-trophy-alaska-moose.jpg
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I don't remember where I originally seen it, but I found it again with google images.

Anyway, here is a list of Palin scandals: Source: Common Mistakes: Top Ten Sarah Palin Scandals

Personally, I would rather have a president with a sense of honor, honesty and integrity, and who will protect and improve rights, liberty, equality and justice for everyone. but sadly some people would rather place partisanship before principles even to the point of chaining themselves to the mast of a sinking ship.
 
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