YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
so even if (in your mind) apes Evolved to fish, those fish that Evolved FROM apes would be apes, but the fish that Evolved to apes would not be apes.
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On Evolution & Creation
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Yes, and we are Not advanced animals. Animals do Not study the Bible
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
You are not an animal? Really? Are you a tree? No, that can't be you move too much. Maybe you are a bacteria. Nope, nope, you are too large. Maybe you are a fungi? No, again we have the "moves to much" problem. So you may be a fun guy but you are definitely not a fungi. It looks as if animal is all that is left.
By the way, you just made a category error. Just because an activity is only done by one organism does not mean that that organism is not part of a larger group.
Esteban X
Active Member
That makes them the smarter ones.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Not an animal but moves. He must be mineral as in a golem?
McBell
Unbound
are you a mammal?
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
According to many you are a fish.
McBell
Unbound
and?
You said: "the superior breeds of the species taking natural advantage of what they their natural instincts recognize as being inferior sub-human breeds."
This led me to wonder whether you considered the exploiters a superior breed, hence my question.
Huh? -- Please rephrase your question.
What are "sub humans?"
"First human to be granted a living soul?" Only some people have souls? Or were earlier humans soulless?
What is a soul? Do dogs and cats have souls? How does one determine whether a given organism is ensouled?
You're talking as if Christian mythology were real. Do you actually believe this? If so, why?
Come on, YT. You are fixated on this fish-as-man thing, and you don't even understand the claims.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I didn't make it up that there are those posting plus more who say that humans are fish. So you come on. If you don't think humans are fish, say so.
It does "add up," but you don't understand it. You're not in a position to make any assessment of it.
Humans are fish.
Humans are not fish.
Both facts, but in different contexts. If you don't understand this, and how to choose the appropriate context, you're not in a position to comment on the subject.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
No matter how you look at it, many have already said based on the theory you believe in that humans are fish. Case closed.
No humans have fish-like ancestral and vestigial attributes, as do all land animals.
No, humans have fish-like ancestral and vestigial attributes, as do all land animals.
Try these basic videos on for size. I doubt you'll watch them as they are full documentaries, but it was part of my human evolution classes at uni.
Edit: In the first episode, "Your Inner Fish," he journeys back to a time, some 375 million years ago, when the first fish crawled up onto land. Shubin's quest for the fossil record of this primeval predecessor takes viewers from highway cuts in rural Pennsylvania to the remote Arctic. After years of searching, he and his colleagues finally found a fossilized fish, known as Tiktaalik, that had enough strength in its front fins to do pushups and heave itself out of the water. Remarkably, we can trace the ancestry of our own hands and arms all the way back to these fins. Viewers also meet the scientists who discovered the DNA recipe for constructing the human hand — an essential set of instructions passed down from fish like Tiktaalikand shared today with a surprising number of other animals, from chickens to chimpanzees. Along the way, Shubin makes it clear that we can also thank our fishy past for many of our body's quirks, such as hernias. We are, every one of us, just a jury-rigged fish."
"In the second episode, "Your Inner Reptile," Shubin exposes our reptilian roots. He searches for our ancient ancestors at fossil sites in the Karoo Desert of South Africa and on the tidal flats of Nova Scotia. He also reveals modern-day links to the past through visits to a fertility clinic in Chicago and a biology lab in London. Along the way, he explains how major transitions in the history of life paved the way for our ancestors' evolution into mammals. Shubin identifies some amazing connections: the amniotic sac was an innovation to keep our reptile ancestors' eggs from drying out; our complex teeth can be traced to ferocious beasts that lived millions of years before dinosaurs; and our hair is linked to the whiskers of reptile-like mammals that lived much of their lives in the dark. Our reptilian ancestors — from fearsome predators to creatures as small as a paper clip — are responsible for more than a few features of modern humans."
"In the final episode of the series, "Your Inner Monkey," Shubin delves into our primate past. He travels from the badlands of Ethiopia, where the famous hominid skeletons "Lucy" and "Ardi" were found, to a forest canopy in Florida, home to modern primates. En route, he explains how many aspects of our form and function evolved. We learn that a genetic mutation in our primate ancestors conferred humans' ability to see in color — but it was an advantage that led to a decline in our sense of smell. The shape of our hands came from tree-dwelling ancestors for whom long fingers made it easier to reach fruit at the tips of fine branches. Shubin concludes by tracing the evolution of the human brain — from a tiny swelling on the nerve cord of a wormlike creature, to the three-part architecture of a shark's brain and the complex brain of primates. As Shubin observes, "Inside every organ, gene and cell in our body lie deep connections with the rest of life on our planet.""
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They are both ærobic vertebrates; both anatomically, physiologically, and genetically similar.
"...as do all land animals?" What fishlike ancestral and vestigial attributes do all land animals have that humans do not?
There is a comma between "no" and "humans".
All humans and land animals share similar vestigial fishiness.
Unlike animal life, man was formed/fashioned from the existing dust of the ground - Gen. 2:7
Man did Not start breathing until God ' breathed the breath of life ' into life-less Adam
In other words, Adam did Not become animated/alive until he started breathing
Thus, Adam went from non-life, to life, and at his death returned back to non-life
You're preaching, URAVIP2ME
Man evolved from earlier form, like any other animal. There is overwhelming, consilient evidence for this. There is no evidence of any special creation, de novo or from dust/clay. It's a fantastc claim based solely on religious mythology.
How do you normally determine if a claim is true or false? What is your assessment modality?