On The Second Coming of Christ

[LightSeeker9]

Racist bull****. White people do not have albinism and modern African people are not the original Homo sapiens (in terms of genetics and such) - no modern people group can claim that. You're actually putting black people down in a way by casting them them as primitive throwbacks that the other races came from. The truth is that Africans have continued to adapt and mix like all other ethnic groups. Stop filling your head with racist black supremacist garbage and crack open an anthropology book.

You are very misinformed and don’t understand anthropology or gentetics. Even your European scholars provide the same evidence as such. It is not racist for facts to be facts. All life began with the black woman hence our Navals

 

[LightSeeker9]

Copts are the descendants of the ancient Egyptians and they're not "black".

Due to mixing to rape and pillaging from the Greeks and romans. So ofcourse you can say they are descendants. They are of mixed gene. If they wouldn’t have mixed in they’re recessive genes they descendants today would be all dark skinned like the original ppl of TamaRe (Egypt)

 

[Enoch07]

If he is "King of Kings" then he is most definitely a ruler.

Not in the sense the OP suggest.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

You are very misinformed and don’t understand anthropology or gentetics. Even your European scholars provide the same evidence as such. It is not racist for facts to be facts. All life began with the black woman hence our Navals

You're the one who doesn't understand what they're talking about, instead getting your opinions from lunatics on YouTube or whatever. The Out of Africa theory says that anatomically (not genetically) modern humans evolved in and migrated out of Africa. It does not say that modern black Africans are the original humans. That would be to say that their genes have not changed at all, that they have faced no environmental stressors or changes or mixed with other populations. That idea is total pseudo-scientific bunk. Humans living in northern climates just developed lighter skin to enable them to get vitamin D more easily in areas with low sunlight. Obviously Caucasians are not the only humans with lighter skin (and not all Caucasians are pale, either, as some are brown). Inuits, Han Chinese, Japanese, Mongolians, Koreans, etc. are all quite pale - paler than a lot of "white" people are. But I notice your ilk never call them "albinos" or "cave beasts" or whatever. You save all your animus for white people. That's not science or fact. That's purely racial hatred.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Due to mixing to rape and pillaging from the Greeks and romans. So ofcourse you can say they are descendants. They are of mixed gene. If they wouldn’t have mixed in they’re recessive genes they descendants today would be all dark skinned like the original ppl of TamaRe (Egypt)

Egypt was always a mixture of people. It was a major global center of civilization for thousands of years. It wasn't ruled by just one people for all that time. We're talking 5,000 years of history.

 

[LightSeeker9]

Racist bull****. White people do not have albinism and modern African people are not the original Homo sapiens (in terms of genetics and such) - no modern people group can claim that. You're actually putting black people down in a way by casting them them as primitive throwbacks that the other races came from. The truth is that Africans have continued to adapt and mix like all other ethnic groups. Stop filling your head with racist black supremacist garbage and crack open an anthropology book.

And I didn’t say white people had albinism

Egypt was always a mixture of people. It was a major global center of civilization for thousands of years. It wasn't ruled by just one people for all that time. We're talking 5,000 years of history.

Before the first empires and dynasties were established where do you think these Egyptians who were black/brown come from? They came from Nubia/ Ethiopia/ Aksum what is your modern day Sudan. I’m not denying the mixture of Egyptians today and I’m talkin about to it’s origin they were fully dark people. Use your common sense. I’m not gonna argue with that because it is a fact. And you good at your word play trying to say Its an insult to claim them as primitive. They are original. And tbh I can get deeper into that but you won’t be able to fathom the information because you obviously are lacking the comprehension to understand that black man is the original man. And you’re confused when I say black man I didn’t say the exact black man to say. Ofcourse it’s been a diluting of genes but at its sole origin the black African man is the original man who is the Pygmy Twa people. Who which we (black people) are decendants of .

 

[LightSeeker9]

And I didn’t say white people had albinism

Before the first empires and dynasties were established where do you think these Egyptians who were black/brown come from? They came from Nubia/ Ethiopia/ Aksum what is your modern day Sudan. I’m not denying the mixture of Egyptians today and I’m talkin about to it’s origin they were fully dark people. Use your common sense. I’m not gonna argue with that because it is a fact. And you good at your word play trying to say Its an insult to claim them as primitive. They are original. And tbh I can get deeper into that but you won’t be able to fathom the information because you obviously are lacking the comprehension to understand that black man is the original man. And you’re confused when I say black man I didn’t say the exact black man to say. Ofcourse it’s been a diluting of genes but at its sole origin the black African man is the original man who is the Pygmy Twa people. Who which we (black people) are decendants of .

If you walk into Ethiopia especially the deeper you go l. You cannot deny the blackness. I am not racist so I deal with facts. I study this faithfully

 

[Deeje]

Not in the sense the OP suggest.

The OP said...."In the Book of Revelation, Christ will return as an earthly ruler, and His Titles will be King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah, Root of David. There are so many individuals who have claimed to be Christ Returned, or of whom this is said."

Christ will return as an earthly ruler but not in physical form. The kingdom is in heaven but its subjects are here on earth.....tried, proven and tested.

Revelation confirms this.....
"I also saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.” (Revelation 21:2-4)

John saw "the holy city New Jerusalem" (not earthly Jerusalem which is confined to one geographical location)....Christ's "bride" are his chosen ones who will share in rulership of " mankind".
All of the things that made living on this earth trialsome will be removed, so that humans will no longer experience sadness, mourning, conflict or pain....why? Because God has permanently removed them. These "former things" will be done away with, forever.

Humans don't have to be dead to benefit from Christ's rulership....in fact they must be very much alive, in the form that God originally gave them. Where does it ever say that earth was supposed to be a training ground for heaven?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

And I didn’t say white people had albinism

Before the first empires and dynasties were established where do you think these Egyptians who were black/brown come from? They came from Nubia/ Ethiopia/ Aksum what is your modern day Sudan. I’m not denying the mixture of Egyptians today and I’m talkin about to it’s origin they were fully dark people. Use your common sense. I’m not gonna argue with that because it is a fact. And you good at your word play trying to say Its an insult to claim them as primitive. They are original. And tbh I can get deeper into that but you won’t be able to fathom the information because you obviously are lacking the comprehension to understand that black man is the original man. And you’re confused when I say black man I didn’t say the exact black man to say. Ofcourse it’s been a diluting of genes but at its sole origin the black African man is the original man who is the Pygmy Twa people. Who which we (black people) are decendants of .

You do so claim that white people are "albino":

You can produce the black, red , yellow , white (albino) seed from black people but white can not produce nothing but white being the recessive gene.

Don't gaslight me.

I never said that there were no black people in ancient Egypt. Of course there were. What I am saying is that ancient Egypt wasn't started by just black people. That's as dumb as saying that white Nordic types created Egyptian civilization.

And you're still wrong about black Africans being the original humans (tecbhically the original humans were not Homo sapiens but another human species that came before Homo sapiens) as well as for your claim that all black Africans being descended from the Twa people. You can present your evidence instead of repeating yourself, though.

 

[Enoch07]

Christ will return as an earthly ruler but not in physical form.

That's what I mean.

The OP suggest he comes back as a physical man to rule.

 

[Deeje]

That's what I mean.

The OP suggest he comes back as a physical man to rule.

OK, so can you enlarge on your comment here....?

@Deeje nails it here. When Christ does return it is not in a physical state, and all that behold him will no longer be in a physical state. When Christ returns we all dead.

How can those who are "dead" behold Christ when his return is here to earth as judge to separate the sheep from the goats? These are humans on earth who have proven to be worthy of either life or death.....so what do you see that I don't?

 

[Enoch07]

How can those who are "dead" behold Christ when his return is here to earth as judge to separate the sheep from the goats?

We will all be in our spiritual forms.

These are humans on earth who have proven to be worthy of either life or death.....so what do you see that I don't?

The judgment spoke of here is the judgment as to whether your soul is worthy of eternal life or death. If you pass judgement you live with God in His new kingdom established here on earth, but in spiritual bodies, the flesh is gone forever. Those who do not pass judgment are blotted from the book of life and cease to exist (both spiritually and physically).

 

[Deeje]

We will all be in our spiritual forms.

Where is that written?

The judgment spoke of here is the judgment as to whether your soul is worthy of eternal life or death.

So your definition of a soul disagrees with the Bible's definition?

A "soul" in the Bible is a living, breathing, physical being. Both animals and humans are called "souls" in the scriptures. It never refers to a disembodied spirit or something inside man. In fact the Bible does not teach that we "have" a soul at all.....it says that we "are" a soul......mortals souls who die. (Ezekiel 18:4)

Many confuse soul and spirit as if they mean the same thing....they clearly do not.

If you pass judgement you live with God in His new kingdom established here on earth, but in spiritual bodies, the flesh is gone forever. Those who do not pass judgment are blotted from the book of life and cease to exist (both spiritually and physically).

So you see this earth as a training ground for a different form of life? Do you see these spiritual bodies as residing permanently on earth? What was the purpose of being in a physical body then? Why didn't God just make us spirit beings like the angels?

What do you think a spiritual body is exactly?

 

[Enoch07]

Where is that written?

Revelations 21 1-4

21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

You can see here in Revelations 21:4 there will be no more death. So long as we live in flesh there will be death, because our flesh bodies are not immortal. They grow old and die. This also refers to there will be no more death spiritually either because all judgement has been passed, everyone damned to hell will be erased, so only the ones left will be God children that loved Him enough to follow the rules.

A "soul" in the Bible is a living, breathing, physical being. Both animals and humans are called "souls" in the scriptures. It never refers to a disembodied spirit or something inside man. In fact the Bible does not teach that we "have" a soul at all.....it says that we "are" a soul......mortals souls who die.

Yes the soul that sinners shall die (without repentence).

Here is the word for soul taken back to its Greek root word. Psuché
Strong's Greek: 5590. ψυχή (psuché) -- breath, the soul

The soul is an intangible thing, the breathe of God so it can't be a physical being. Though it resides within physical beings.

 

[sooda]

I don’t only mean their “black wooly hair” I also mean their black African skin. When I speak in the context I am solely pertaining to the ancient times before any caucasians came in the mix. Im referring when the original man was roaming the earth. The people speak of today are due to the mixing of other people’s later on resulting to what you see today. Same way Egypt is teeming with pale-Arabs and posing as true Egyptian or the Caucasian romans mixing in claiming them sleeve Egyptian . You cannoy use the modern people of that lend today as an example because they come later after the empires

Why do you think they had wooly hair? Most Arabs don't.

The civilizations in the Levant and Mesopotamia didn't originate in Africa. Sumer and Ubaid were old when Egypt was new.

You are very misinformed and don’t understand anthropology or gentetics. Even your European scholars provide the same evidence as such. It is not racist for facts to be facts. All life began with the black woman hence our Navals

What is a Naval?

Do you even know what "albinism" means?

Albinism - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albinism

Overview

Albinism is the "congenital absence of any pigmentation or coloration in a person, animal or plant, resulting in white hair, feathers, scales and skin and pink eyes in mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians and fish and other small invertebrates as well." Varied use and interpretation of the terms mean that written reports of albinistic animals can be difficult to verify.

Albinism can reduce the survivability of an animal; for example, it has been suggested that albino alligators have an average survival span of only 24 hours due to the lack of protection from UV and their lack of camouflage to avoid predators.

 

[arthra]

Bahá’u’lláh was not a king or a ruler of any sort. Haile Selassie was the Emperor of Ethiopia.

Devananda …I trust you will be happy with your choice. As you know this is a Comparative Religion section of Religious Forums and I have no quarrel with your beliefs or with your past remarks but as Baha'is we do recognize that

Bahá'u'lláh the Prophet-Founder of the Bahá'í Faith, was born on November 12, 1817 to a noble family in the province of Mazindaran, Persia (Iran). His mother was Khadijih Khanum and his father Mirza Buzurg-i-Vazir, a member of the royal court. Bahá'u'lláh,'s family could trace its lineage to the ruling dynasties of Persia's imperial past (Yazdigird III, a 7th century king of the Sassanid Dynasty,) and was endowed with wealth and vast estates. Turning His back on the position at court which these advantages offered Him, Bahá'u'lláh became known for His generosity and kindliness which made Him deeply loved among His countrymen.

Who is Bahá'u'lláh?

Bahá'u'lláh was born at dawn on November 12, 1817, in the city of Tihrán, to a family solidly established in the Persian hereditary nobility. His father was a member of the court of the Sháh. Their family name was Núrí, derived from their ancestral home in the Núr district of Mázindarán province, not far from Tihrán. They were descended from the royal line of Persia's Zoroastrian period, including Yazdigird III, the last to rule that ancient empire before the arrival of Islam; and through these kings, descended from Zoroaster himself.

Bahá'u'lláh - Everything2.com