"One Fact to Refute Creationism"

[Subduction Zone]

So you say, that's your point of view, which is not everyone's.
When evolution meets Creationism, it rises it's ugly head, in protest against.

When a person of evolution asks me for proof of evidence, they can not handle me going to the bible, for my proof of evidence, Where else do you think a person who believes in creation will go. For their proof of evidence but the bible.

So you go into the world looking for your proof of evidence and I go to the bible.

I will not deviate from the bible nor will I accept evolution as a source to explain the existence of life.

How can reality be ugly? I am sorry if you feel that way.

And you do not know what evidence is. Perhaps we need a side discussion on the nature of evidence. A rational person will go to a rational source for evidence. You are trying to use circular reasoning when you use the Bible. That is a logical fallacy. You can't prove anything with such an approach.

Yes, I use reality when I look for evidence. You use a book of myths. That is why you are bound to fail.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Yes googled it

Rare letter in which Charles Darwin confesses to being an atheist is set to sell for $90,000 | Daily Mail Online

It was lady hope who insisted darwin was a man of god.

Why of course, that was in Charles Darwin early life, when he first started out on his evolution adventure.
But later in his personal life he was studying to be a minister.

 

[Faithofchristian]

How can reality be ugly? I am sorry if you feel that way.

And you do not know what evidence is. Perhaps we need a side discussion on the nature of evidence. A rational person will go to a rational source for evidence. You are trying to use circular reasoning when you use the Bible. That is a logical fallacy. You can't prove anything with such an approach.

Yes, I use reality when I look for evidence. You use a book of myths. That is why you are bound to fail.

I didn't say anything about Reality being ugly, I said, evolution rises it's ugly head.
Maybe you should get your story straight.
Before you say anything.

Evolution is not reality, but unreality.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That's where your wrong at, I can support my claim by the bible, unto which you can not accept the truth as given by the bible.

You can't even do that. You can only misinterpret verses taken out of context. That is one of the problems that you run into by using an out of date translation. It is too easy to misinterpret.

You go to evolution for your answers and I go to the bible for my answers.

No, I go to reality for my answers, you go to a book of myths.

People like yourself do not like it when people like me brings the bible into the subject of evolution, therefore evolution rises it's ugly head.

No, the Bible is an ugly book. It is filled with bad morals. That is ugly. It is full of scientific errors, that is not pretty. It is full of self contradictions, do you remember your failure on that argument? It is filled with failed prophecies.

When evolution is brought up, as a Christian I have every right to bring the bible up for my defence.

Nope, since the Bible is what is being challenged you need to find evidence that supports it. Once again this is circlular reasoning. It shows that you cannot think rationally.

You bring up evolution for your defence and I bring the bible for my defence.

Therefore it will be a never ending process.

No, no, no. I bring up testable ideas for my defense. I bring up science. You bring up myths that you cannot support and circular reasoning. I offered to help you to learn why you were wrong. Why did you run away?

 

[Subduction Zone]

That all depends on what reality your talking about.
Evolution is not reality, but unreality.

Evolution can be tested and shown to be real. You cannot claim the same for creationism.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Why of course, that was in Charles Darwin early life, when he first started out on his evolution adventure.
But later in his personal life he was studying to be a minister.

You have that backwards. Seriously you need to start supporting your claims:

Charles Darwin's education - Wikipedia

Read the article. It was in 1827, long before he even thought he began working on the theory of evolution that he studied to be a preacher.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I didn't say anything about Reality being ugly, I said, evolution rises it's ugly head.
Maybe you should get your story straight.
Before you say anything.

Evolution is not reality, but unreality.

You are contradicting yourself. Evolution has been tested millions of times. It has been shown to be reality. So you did say that reality is ugly.

Why are you so afraid to learn? Do you really think that reality is ugly?

 

[Faithofchristian]

Evolution can be tested and shown to be real. You cannot claim the same for creationism.

You prove everything according to the Theory of Evolution. Therefore I can prove everything according to the bible.

 

[Faithofchristian]

You have that backwards. Seriously you need to start supporting your claims:

Charles Darwin's education - Wikipedia

Read the article. It was in 1827, long before he even thought he began working on the theory of evolution that he studied to be a preacher.

Yeah and even after Charles Darwin started on his theory of evolution, he still was studying to be a minister in his personal life.

 

[Faithofchristian]

You are contradicting yourself. Evolution has been tested millions of times. It has been shown to be reality. So you did say that reality is ugly.

Why are you so afraid to learn? Do you really think that reality is ugly?

No I said evolution rises its ugly head. I said nothing about reality,

Evolution is not a reality

 

[Faithofchristian]

You are contradicting yourself. Evolution has been tested millions of times. It has been shown to be reality. So you did say that reality is ugly.

Why are you so afraid to learn? Do you really think that reality is ugly?

Oh by the way, you are right about Evolution as being tested,

You see everything about evolution has to be tested.
But where as the bible, there is no testing to be done, That's why evolution can not stand up against the Bible.

 

[ChristineM]

Yes they are.

Its good you admitted it. A step forward.

 

[Enoch07]

Its good you admitted it. A step forward.

I have no problems point it out.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You prove everything according to the Theory of Evolution. Therefore I can prove everything according to the bible.

Wrong, I use the scientific method to show that ideas are correct. You, like most creationists, do not understand the concept of the scientific method. Creationists that are totally ignorant of the sciences tend to call all science that they refuse to understand "evolution".

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yeah and even after Charles Darwin started on his theory of evolution, he still was studying to be a minister in his personal life.

Provide evidence for this claim or else we know that it is false. I showed you to be wrong with your claim, an honest person would own up to their error and then we could move on.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No I said evolution rises its ugly head. I said nothing about reality,

Evolution is not a reality

Wrong again, you do not seem to understand that beyond a reasonable doubt evolution has been shown to be reality. You need to learn why we know that you are wrong.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Oh by the way, you are right about Evolution as being tested,

You see everything about evolution has to be tested.
But where as the bible, there is no testing to be done, That's why evolution can not stand up against the Bible.

The Bible has been tested. It has failed. Believers are too afraid to test it because they know that it will fail. The theory of evolution has been tested and it has passed those tests. People that are not afraid have tested the Bible and it has failed. Believers are too afraid to test the Bible because they know it will fail.. That is why the Bible cannot stand up against reality.

 

[Skwim]

The Bible has been tested. It has failed. Believers are too afraid to test it because they know that it will fail. The theory of evolution has been tested and it has passed those tests. People that are not afraid have tested the Bible and it has failed. Believers are too afraid to test the Bible because they know it will fail.. That is why the Bible cannot stand up against reality.

Absolutely. And It's the primary reason creationists attack evolution to "prove" their case rather than letting the Bible prove their position. After they've said "creationism is true because the Bible tells me so," they have nothing else to offer.

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[ChristineM]

Why of course, that was in Charles Darwin early life, when he first started out on his evolution adventure.
But later in his personal life he was studying to be a minister.

Darwin originally studied at Edinburgh because he was unwilling to sigh the required Anglican articles for entry into Oxford or Cambridge. When it became clear he was not up for the pressure of medical study his father sent him to study to be a parson at Christ's college where he wrote "from what little I had heard and thought on the subject I had scruples about declaring my belief in all the dogmas of the Church of England; though otherwise I liked the thought of being a country clergyman."

During his voyage on the Beagle he began to realise the Bible could nit be trusted as true.

Throughout the rest of his life he avoided religious controversy but was still inclined to religions while writing Origin of Species, however, in 1876 he wrote "disbelief [in religion] crept over me at a very slow rate, but was at last complete."

Although he had become agnostic he still supported his church.

It was Lady Hope, a staunch evangelist who claimed that Darwin reverted to Christianity on his death bed. Those claims were rejected by Darwin's children and have been dismissed as false by historians.

 

[ChristineM]

I have no problems point it out.

Don't worry, we'll do it for you