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MdmSzdWhtGuy
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And for the same reasons that they don't celebrate Ramadan. Hannakuh is a Jewish holiday, not a Christian one.
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"Pari became interested in the subject of Jewish roots after she and daughter, Julie, toured Israel with Bridges for Peace in March of 1995."
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MdmSzdWhtGuy
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Because after the time of Jesus, those who called themselves Christians rejected Judaism in favor of the religion that came to be known as Christianity. Not too many people since the time of Jesus who call themselves Christians are continuing on with Jewish tradition.
When Muhammad came along, claiming to be the last of the Prophets, he acknowledged the prophets of the Bible, including Jesus, but came up with his own religion, which became known as Islam. They don't celebrate Christian or Jewish holidays, as they came up with their own set of holidays.
The 3 Abrahamic religions all claim to be worshipping the same Diety, but it is quite clear that once each religion became its own distinct entity, that they came up with different rituals, seperate and apart from the traditions of the religions that preceded them.
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When Muhammad came along, claiming to be the last of the Prophets, he acknowledged the prophets of the Bible, including Jesus, but came up with his own religion, which became known as Islam. They don't celebrate Christian or Jewish holidays, as they came up with their own set of holidays.
The 3 Abrahamic religions all claim to be worshipping the same Diety, but it is quite clear that once each religion became its own distinct entity, that they came up with different rituals, seperate and apart from the traditions of the religions that preceded them.
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Hi dear MdmSzdWhtGuy,MdmSzdWhtGuy said:
Actually, When Mohammed came and acknowledged the prophets of the bible as you said, including Jesus, he did not came up with a new religion because islam was there since the first prophet on earth and it's not a new religion as many might think so.
The reason why Muslims do not celebrate these holidays is because Allah allowed us to celebarate only 2 Eids, the one after Ramadn and the one after Haj.
I believe all 3 religions worship the same God but they chosed thier own way in doing it according to thier understanding for it.
Moreover, even within these 3 religions there are many sects and they have there own sets of tradtions and holidays too sometimes.
MdmSzdWhtGuy
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The Truth,
Correct me if I am wrong, but there was no Quran on Earth prior to the time of Muhammad, right? There were no people calling themselved Muslims prior to Muhammad. The people of the Arabian peninsula had many different religions, a lot of them pagan, prior to the time of the prophet.
I know that Islamic scholars say that the original Quran is on gold plates in heaven, and the Quran as told to Muhammad by Gabriel is supposed to be a perfect copy of the one in heaven. If we are to take them at their word, and I am willing to do so for this discussion, then we must agree that prior to Muhammad, there is no Quran, and my understanding is, that without a Quran, we cannot have a Muslim.
Just as there were no Christians prior to the time of Jesus Christ. No Zoroastrians prior to the time of Zoraster, no Buddhists prior to Buddha, etc. . .
If there is some reference to Muslims or Islam prior to the mid 7th Century, please point them out, as I am not aware of them. I am currently reading a book which is quite detailed on the history of Islam and it says nothing at all of there being people claiming themselves to be Muslims prior to the time of Muhammad.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but there was no Quran on Earth prior to the time of Muhammad, right? There were no people calling themselved Muslims prior to Muhammad. The people of the Arabian peninsula had many different religions, a lot of them pagan, prior to the time of the prophet.
I know that Islamic scholars say that the original Quran is on gold plates in heaven, and the Quran as told to Muhammad by Gabriel is supposed to be a perfect copy of the one in heaven. If we are to take them at their word, and I am willing to do so for this discussion, then we must agree that prior to Muhammad, there is no Quran, and my understanding is, that without a Quran, we cannot have a Muslim.
Just as there were no Christians prior to the time of Jesus Christ. No Zoroastrians prior to the time of Zoraster, no Buddhists prior to Buddha, etc. . .
If there is some reference to Muslims or Islam prior to the mid 7th Century, please point them out, as I am not aware of them. I am currently reading a book which is quite detailed on the history of Islam and it says nothing at all of there being people claiming themselves to be Muslims prior to the time of Muhammad.
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Ok, i'll tell you ...JerryL said:
The last person before Muhammed "Jesus Christ" didn't practice excatly the same as our current islam but almost the same because islam means submission to the will of God and it's not just a religion but a system of life.
Jeusu was the last one who submitted and God gave him the Injeel to guide the Jewish because he is the Messiah according to Islam.
BTW, Allah sent Moses to the jewish with Torah before Jesus and that was only for Jewish.
before Mohammed (PBUH), God was sending a prophet to every nation by thier own language and the message wasn't for all people but for that particular nation the same as Moses and Jesus for the Jewish with Torah and Injeel.
Nevertheless, Mohammed was believeing in monotheism which also means submission to God but the practice of our cuurent islam was after God ordered Mohammed to spread the message of Islam for the whole world.
Excatly.MdmSzdWhtGuy said:
All prophets submitted thier will to Allah even before Mohammed.
If you mean by islam the last message to the world by Mohammed so yes but if you meant Muslims in general so No, all prophets submitted to the will of God and they were Muslims definitly but they were only sent to a certain place with a certain message.