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From where all christian got their faith ?

I mean base of their Faith !

It is Bible

Isn't that true ?

What do you call who don't believe in bible?

Of course, unbelievers

Isn't that true?

Here question every one should answer it .

Do you believe in every ward and sentence in bible

For example, if bible say jesus prophet !

Will you still believe in bible?

What if bible say there is no salvation !

Will you still believe in bible?



ღ♥ღ First bible describing coming prophet ღ♥ღ

It says " he will teach you what ever jesus taught you ღ♥ღ

If he didn't that mean he is false prophet that jesus warn you

Isn't that true?

John 14:26
Amplified Bible (AMP)
26*But the Comforter (Counselor, Helper, Intercessor, Advocate, Strengthener, Standby), the Holy Spirit, Whom the Father will send in My name [in My place, to represent Me and act on My behalf], He will teach you all things. And He will cause you to recall (will remind you of, bring to your remembrance) everything I have told you.


What did jesus taught people ?

So easy , Read bible to know .

♡People saying jesus prophet ( this is what he taught them

Matthew 21:11 The crowds answered, "This is Jesus, the prophet ...

♡Jesus describing his self as prophet

Mark 6 - A Prophet Without Honor - Jesus left - Bible Gateway


▲ Let's read Quran Nobel : ( prophet Muhammad said same thing jesus said )

(jesus) " He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet;"



ღ♥ღ Next, bible say jews crucify jesus because he said he is son of god ღ♥ღ

So, there is no salvation and jesus is prophet.

John 19

6*As soon as the chief priests and their officials saw him, they shouted, “Crucify! Crucify!”

But Pilate answered, “You take him and crucify him. As for me, I find no basis for a charge against him.”

7*The Jewish leaders insisted, “We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God.”


☑ jews according to bible killer of prophet.

Matthew 23:37 ASV
American Standard Version
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, that killeth the prophets, and stoneth them that are sent unto her! how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!


☑ when jesus said he is son of god, he meant prophet
Son of god used in their period of time as ward refers to prophets
(Peace be upon him)

For example, bible say Adam ( peace be upon him) son of god

Luke 3:38
Which was the sonne of Enos, which was the sonne of Seth, which was the sonne of Adam, which was the sonne of God*...


▲ If you still believe about salvation turning god to human for sake of salvation that mean you r not believer

God say in Quran Nobel :

" Surely, dis believers are those who said: "Allah is the third of the three (in a Trinity)." But there is no ilah (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but One Ilah (God - Allah) "

Again, prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said just what jesus said

We conclude bible confirm Muhammad peace be upon him prophet.
 

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New Member
About salvation (✟)

No one die for other sins, so jesus didn't die for Your Sins.

DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.


Bible say jew crucify (✟) jesus out of self interest :

Mark 15 :

9*“Do you want me to release to you the king of the Jews?” asked Pilate, 10*knowing it was out of self-interest that the chief priests had handed Jesus over to him. 11*But the chief priests stirred up the crowd to have Pilate release Barabbas instead.

12*“What shall I do, then, with the one you call the king of the Jews?” Pilate asked them.

13*“Crucify him!” they shouted.


Conspiracy to crucify (✟) jesus :

Luke 13:31 ►
Parallel Verses
New International Version
At that time some Pharisees came to Jesus and said to him, "Leave this place and go somewhere else. Herod wants to kill you."
 

4consideration

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Premium Member
I am having difficulty figuring out what it is you want to debate.

Would you please narrow it down to one or a few points? (That might help to get the conversation started.)
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
John 14:26
Amplified Bible (AMP)
26*But the Comforter (Counselor, Helper, Intercessor, Advocate, Strengthener, Standby), the Holy Spirit, Whom the Father will send in My name [in My place, to represent Me and act on My behalf], He will teach you all things. And He will cause you to recall (will remind you of, bring to your remembrance) everything I have told you.

So, are you saying that 'The Comforter (or counselor) is a prophecy regarding Prophet Muhammad? If so, bring a verse from Quran or a Hadith that Muhammad claims He is 'The Comforter' prophesied by Jesus. Can you?
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Christians did not Get their faith from the Bible. The Christian Bible did not exist for at least three hundred years After the Death Of Jesus.

Your little script is a nonsense.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
From where all christian got their faith ?

I mean base of their Faith !

It is Bible

Isn't that true ?
Nope. Not true. This misapprehension effectively renders the rest of your post flobbledeflee.
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
From where all christian got their faith ?

I mean base of their Faith !

It is Bible

Isn't that true ?
Nope, the basis of our faith is the person, life, teachings, death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ.

" Surely, dis believers are those who said: "Allah is the third of the three (in a Trinity)." But there is no ilah (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but One Ilah (God - Allah) "
If the Qur'an is the infallible and exact word of God, then why does it so terribly get wrong what the doctrine of the Trinity actually states? Did God get Christian belief wrong?
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
Nope, the basis of our faith is the person, life, teachings, death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Which are described in Bible.
If the Qur'an is the infallible and exact word of God, then why does it so terribly get wrong what the doctrine of the Trinity actually states? Did God get Christian belief wrong?

No, God didn't get it wrong. Another possibility is, Bible was misinterpreted.
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
Which are described in Bible.
Yes, but Christianity existed for decades before the first epistle of the New Testament was written. Christianity went for centuries without having a standardized Bible. Most Christians didn't even have all of what would be considered the books of the New Testament. The Apostles and disciples transmitted the Gospel orally, and only later did anyone bother to write it down. All the Bible is, is a later written record of what had already been preached for decades.

Point being, Christianity existed just fine without the Bible. It is not the foundation of our faith.

No, God didn't get it wrong. Another possibility is, Bible was misinterpreted.
This has nothing to do with Biblical interpretation. Leaving aside how the Bible is supposed to be interpreted, the fact remains that the Qur'an didn't even come close to accurately describing Trinitarian beliefs, and makes wrong conclusions about what the belief in the Trinity implies.

It said that, according to us Christians, God is the third of three Persons in a Trinity. This is false. What we REALLY believe, is that God exists as three Persons, Who are all God. The Qur'an effectively states that Christians believe in more than one God, and worship people other than God. This is also false. We Christians believe that there is only one God, and we only worship that one God--we do not believe that there is anything else worthy of worship.

On that note, the Qur'an also gets wrong the beliefs of the Jews. The Qur'an says that Jews believe that Ezra is the son of God, even though the Jews have never ever believed that.

You're right, God didn't get anything wrong. Another possibility (actually a reality) is that the Qur'an is not His Word. The Qur'an contains falsehood.
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
Yes, but Christianity existed for decades before the first epistle of the New Testament was written. Christianity went for centuries without having a standardized Bible. Most Christians didn't even have all of what would be considered the books of the New Testament. The Apostles and disciples transmitted the Gospel orally, and only later did anyone bother to write it down. All the Bible is, is a later written record of what had already been preached for decades.

Point being, Christianity existed just fine without the Bible. It is not the foundation of our faith.

Yes, Christians lived before New Testament was written, but afterward, without the Bible, the later generations of Christians would have known very very little about Jesus and His disciples. Your belief is based on what is written in New Testament. Moreover, part of teachings of Jesus and His disciples were to preach the Gosple.


This has nothing to do with Biblical interpretation. Leaving aside how the Bible is supposed to be interpreted, the fact remains that the Qur'an didn't even come close to accurately describing Trinitarian beliefs, and makes wrong conclusions about what the belief in the Trinity implies.
I don't think so. Quran rejects the idea that Jesus was God and equal to Father. There is no such a term as Trinity in Bible. The doctrine is based on a certain interpretation of NT. Therefore, Quran rejects that particular interpretation of NT regarding Jesus station.




It said that, according to us Christians, God is the third of three Persons in a Trinity. This is false. What we REALLY believe, is that God exists as three Persons, Who are all God. The Qur'an effectively states that Christians believe in more than one God, and worship people other than God. This is also false. We Christians believe that there is only one God, and we only worship that one God--we do not believe that there is anything else worthy of worship.
Believeing in Trinity requires believing that God has 3 parts, each part is a third, which contradicts with oneness of God. To say God has three forms and not three parts, does not solve the problem, as discussed many times, and Christians themselves agree it is not logical, and they say, God is beyound our understanding. But being beyound understanding is different than being illogical.


On that note, the Qur'an also gets wrong the beliefs of the Jews. The Qur'an says that Jews believe that Ezra is the son of God, even though the Jews have never ever believed that.


You're right, God didn't get anything wrong. Another possibility (actually a reality) is that the Qur'an is not His Word. The Qur'an contains falsehood.
These require investigation and would go out of the topic of OP.
 
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Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
Yes, Christians lived before New Testament was written, but afterward, without the Bible, the later generations of Christians would have known very very little about Jesus and His disciples. Your belief is based on what is written in New Testament. Moreover, part of teachings of Jesus and His disciples were to preach the Gosple.
Yes. But this still doesn't mean that Christianity is founded on the Bible, as the OP was claiming. The Bible is simply there to explain the Christian faith. It is not the foundation of Christianity. The foundation of Christianity is the person, life and actions of Jesus the Christ, and the Apostle's witness of that.

The Bible never was, is not and never will be the foundation of Christianity. Every Bible in the world could vanish tomorrow, and Christianity would go on just fine without it. It already did for centuries.

I don't think so. Quran rejects the idea that Jesus was God and equal to Father. There is no such a term as Trinity in Bible. The doctrine is based on a certain interpretation of NT. Therefore, Quran rejects that particular interpretation of NT regarding Jesus station.
It does reject that particular interpretation of the NT. But it also completely gets the doctrine of the Trinity wrong. No matter what way you try to spin it, no matter what red herring you try to throw in, the Qur'an contains a glaringly obvious mistake in its description of the Christian belief in the Trinity that any first-year theology student could point out--or any person sufficiently educated and read-up on Christian belief, for that matter.

Believeing in Trinity requires believing that God has 3 parts, each part is a third, which contradicts with oneness of God.
Wrong. We don't believe that God is divided into three parts, each of which being a third. We believe that God exists in three Persons, each of which is fully and truly God. Yet all three together form the one God. The Father is fully God, not just a third. The Son is fully God, not just a third. The Holy Spirit is fully God, not just a third. Yet all three together are fully God.

The Trinity is not divided.

To say God has three forms and not three parts, does not solve the problem, as discussed many times,
Nor do we believe that God simply has three forms or "masks" that He switches between.

and Christians themselves agree it is not logical, and they say, God is beyound our understanding. But being beyound understanding is different than being illogical.
God does not have to conform to human logic--in fact, God has always been far beyond human logic.

These require investigation and would go out of the topic of OP.
Except, they don't require investigation. Anyone with a basic knowledge of either Christianity or Judaism knows them to be false.
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
Yes. But this still doesn't mean that Christianity is founded on the Bible, as the OP was claiming. The Bible is simply there to explain the Christian faith. It is not the foundation of Christianity. The foundation of Christianity is the person, life and actions of Jesus the Christ, and the Apostle's witness of that.

The Bible never was, is not and never will be the foundation of Christianity. Every Bible in the world could vanish tomorrow, and Christianity would go on just fine without it. It already did for centuries.

How did different denominations of Christianity come to existence?
To be fair, theses denominations appeared on the basis of difference in interpretations of Bible. What is it that Christian denominations often argue with each other? That the other denominations beliefs are not biblical but ours is biblical. In another words, the denominations claim their view is truely biblical, but others are not.



It does reject that particular interpretation of the NT. But it also completely gets the doctrine of the Trinity wrong. No matter what way you try to spin it, no matter what red herring you try to throw in, the Qur'an contains a glaringly obvious mistake in its description of the Christian belief in the Trinity that any first-year theology student could point out--or any person sufficiently educated and read-up on Christian belief, for that matter.


To be fair, Quran does not get the trinity wrong:

"They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them." 5:73

Allah is the same as Elohim, who is the Father. The verse criticizes those Christians who say The Father (Allah, or Elohim) is one of the Three Persons of Trinity. I believe it does it correctly, because Trinity says The Father and the Son are equal, whereas Bible says The Father is greater than the Son:

"the Father is greater than I" John 14:28




Wrong. We don't believe that God is divided into three parts, each of which being a third. We believe that God exists in three Persons, each of which is fully and truly God. Yet all three together form the one God. The Father is fully God, not just a third. The Son is fully God, not just a third. The Holy Spirit is fully God, not just a third. Yet all three together are fully God.

The Trinity is not divided.

Nor do we believe that God simply has three forms or "masks" that He switches between.

I believe Trinity denotes God has parts, yet denies it outwardly. God in Quran says, He knows the Heart of Men. So, is it possible that at least some of the Trinity believers deep down believe God has Three parts, but only outwardly say He has no parts?
Let's think about it. There is the Father in Heaven. There was the Son on earth. So, part of God in Father in Heaven, and part of it inside Jesus, and the other part Holy Spirit.
And in fact this is from a Christian Site:

"God was One but when creation had to come into existence He severed a Part of Himself and placed It to work in creation so that the latter could come into being and continue to exist. This Part was sent out with the Fiat "Let there be Light." With this Fiat, a Part of God was placed beyond the border of the immediate vicinity of God so that this Part could radiate and illuminate the void from there. Without the Light being consciously placed at this outpost through an Act of Will of God, it would have been impossible for Creation to come into being because this Light is the Power for the existence and sustenance of Creation.

This Part, which God anchored at the outpost of His immediate vicinity is what is referred to in the Bible as the "Spirit""
The Holy Trinity




God does not have to conform to human logic--in fact, God has always been far beyond human logic.
But that doesn't mean that any statement regarding God if its true, can contradict with logic, and more importantly with Bible.



Except, they don't require investigation. Anyone with a basic knowledge of either Christianity or Judaism knows them to be false.

To be fair, to know the Truth about Religious beliefs requires a good investigation free from bias and fanaticism.
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
How did different denominations of Christianity come to existence?
To be fair, theses denominations appeared on the basis of difference in interpretations of Bible. What is it that Christian denominations often argue with each other? That the other denominations beliefs are not biblical but ours is biblical. In another words, the denominations claim their view is truely biblical, but others are not.
This is only an issue among the Protestants, who reject the oral part of the Apostolic Tradition. Without the oral part, the Protestants are unable to come up with solid criteria upon which they can judge a biblical interpretation. It's just one man's opinion versus another's. And when they can't agree on whose personal interpretation is right, they split off and form new denominations. This is what happens when you take the Bible out of its original context as a part of the larger Apostolic Tradition.

In the Apostolic Churches that DO maintain and preserve the oral part of the Apostolic Tradition, however, there is almost full unanimity. The only reason the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox Churches are divided is due to rash judgements, semantics, politics and bad blood, for example--our faith is otherwise pretty much the exact same. The Roman Catholics differ a bit more from the two Orthodox communions, since they believe in "development of doctrine," meaning that the Scholastics have more of the truth than the Fathers, and the Fathers have more of the truth than the Apostles. The break between the Roman Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox also had more to do with politics and culture than actual differences in faith.

The Orthodox differ from the Catholics by saying that the same teaching and the same faith has been held by all--it has not developed, grown or changed over the millennia. This means that the Orthodox preserve as carefully as possible the Christian faith in its original form, by adhering strictly to the Tradition and rejecting any innovations.

To be fair, Quran does not get the trinity wrong:

"They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them." 5:73
Yes it does. Reposting the verse won't make it true.

Allah is the same as Elohim, who is the Father. The verse criticizes those Christians who say The Father (Allah, or Elohim) is one of the Three Persons of Trinity. I believe it does it correctly, because Trinity says The Father and the Son are equal, whereas Bible says The Father is greater than the Son:
No, the verse states that God is one of a Trinity. It also says that we believe that there is more than one God. There's a reason Muslims murder us Christians for supposedly being polytheists, you know. The Qur'an tells them that we believe in more than one God, and that we worship another besides God.

We don't. We have only ever believed in one God. The Qur'an says that we believe in more than one God, and accuses us of attaching or associating creatures with God, which we don't.

"the Father is greater than I" John 14:28
The Father is not greater in the sense of being divine while the Son is not, or in the sense that the Father is more powerful than the Son, or more glorious. Rather, the Father is greater in that the Son is begotten of the Father. The Father is the source of the Trinity, in the same way that our Sun is the source of light and heat.

I believe Trinity denotes God has parts, yet denies it outwardly. God in Quran says, He knows the Heart of Men. So, is it possible that at least some of the Trinity believers deep down believe God has Three parts, but only outwardly say He has no parts?
If they do, then they aren't understanding the doctrine of the Trinity.

Let's think about it. There is the Father in Heaven. There was the Son on earth. So, part of God in Father in Heaven, and part of it inside Jesus, and the other part Holy Spirit.
If God is omnipresent, then can we say that a part of Him is here in Salzburg, Austria, and another part is in Canada, another part is in the US, and another is in Heaven? Why or why not?

Trinitarian doctrine states that the Son is fully God, the Father is fully God, and the Spirit is fully God. They don't each have a third of the Divine Nature. They don't have a third of the Being of God. They are each the fullness of God's being and they each have the fullness of the Divine Nature. Each one of them are completely and wholly God, and all three taken together are one undivided God.

And in fact this is from a Christian Site:

"God was One but when creation had to come into existence He severed a Part of Himself and placed It to work in creation so that the latter could come into being and continue to exist. This Part was sent out with the Fiat "Let there be Light." With this Fiat, a Part of God was placed beyond the border of the immediate vicinity of God so that this Part could radiate and illuminate the void from there. Without the Light being consciously placed at this outpost through an Act of Will of God, it would have been impossible for Creation to come into being because this Light is the Power for the existence and sustenance of Creation.

This Part, which God anchored at the outpost of His immediate vicinity is what is referred to in the Bible as the "Spirit""
The Holy Trinity
That site is flat-out wrong. There are many Christian denominations who no longer believe in the Trinity, or are too ignorant to even explain it. This is what happens when you throw out the massive oral part of the Apostolic Tradition, and only hold onto the miniscule written part, the Bible.

After looking at that site, they're definitely out there, even as far as Protestants go. They are most certainly not representative of orthodox, mainstream Christianity. Had those statements been made in the first centuries of the Church, the site's authors would have been immediately convicted of heresy.

But that doesn't mean that any statement regarding God if its true, can contradict with logic, and more importantly with Bible.
Do you believe that God can contradict logic?

To be fair, to know the Truth about Religious beliefs requires a good investigation free from bias and fanaticism.
And I've done that. My goal has always been to uncover the earliest Christian beliefs. I didn't start my life out as a Byzantine Catholic, or an Orthodox Christian, or anything like that. I have come to faith in the Trinity through my own study and walk with Christ, and I've completely changed my religious convictions more than once.
 
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Clarity

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From where all christian got their faith ?

...

Here question every one should answer it .

Do you believe in every ward and sentence in bible

...

Faith itself is innate. Everyone born human has at least a seed of it. Faith is an extension of our ability to abstract. To see an image in our mind (first) and then create it with our hands is an example of abstracting ability (such as "seeing" a fence when it doesn't exist and then bringing it into existence in the image of our original idea).

Faith is similar, to believe in the unseen, to trust in an uncertain future, etc. Faith is therefore fed by knowledge. The more we know, the more we understand, then the clearer our thinking, the better we "see", and the greater our faith.

Yes, I believe every word in the Bible, but I admit to not understanding every word, but my belief is based on the faith I described above. The more I study the Bible, the more infallible it appears.
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
The Father is not greater in the sense of being divine while the Son is not, or in the sense that the Father is more powerful than the Son, or more glorious.

Jesus Himslef said:

"By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me." John 5:30

"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." Mattew 24:36
 

InChrist

Free4ever
Jesus Himslef said:

"By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me." John 5:30

"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." Mattew 24:36


When Jesus, the Son of God, spoke these words He was speaking from His humanity at the time He was on earth in the flesh and in a state of humility to which He had lowered Himself to become one of us, the Son of Man. I believe the teaching of the biblical scriptures is the equality of the Father,Son, and Holy Spirit yet within the triune nature of God the Son always honors the position of His Father.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Again, prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said just what jesus said

We conclude bible confirm Muhammad peace be upon him prophet.


did Mohammad say this:

Matthew 19:4*In reply he said: “Did YOU not read that he who created them from [the] beginning made them male and female 5*and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will stick to his wife (singular), and the two will be one flesh’? 6*So that they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has yoked together let no man put apart.” 7*They said to him: “Why, then, did Moses prescribe giving a certificate of dismissal and divorcing her?” 8*He said to them: “Moses, out of regard for YOUR hardheartedness, made the concession to YOU of divorcing YOUR wives, but such has not been the case from [the] beginning. 9*I say to YOU that whoever divorces his wife, except on the ground of fornication, and marries another commits adultery.”
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
When Jesus, the Son of God, spoke these words He was speaking from His humanity at the time He was on earth in the flesh and in a state of humility to which He had lowered Himself to become one of us, the Son of Man. I believe the teaching of the biblical scriptures is the equality of the Father,Son, and Holy Spirit yet within the triune nature of God the Son always honors the position of His Father.

The teachings of New Testament is not about equality of power and station, or essence of Jesus and the Father, but rather it is about revealing the Will and Attributes of the Father through Jesus. That is the reason scriptures call Jesus 'Image of God', meaning that if God is 'the Sun', His image is manifested in a Mirror. The Mirror is Jesus, so that if we look at the Image of the Sun in the Mirror we can say, we see the Sun, and if we say that is just a Mirror and not the Sun that is also true. Likewise since the Will and Attributes of God are manifested in Jesus fully, as Image of God, we can say He was God, and if we say He was not God, but a Prophet, that is also True. The Hebrew Scriptures talks about a Prophet like Moses. That Prophet is Jesus. Both Jesus and Moses were a god or Lord according to scriptures and both revealed the Will of God and both are said their Faces became bright as the Sun, meaning the glory of God appeared in a Mirror in both of them. Jesus was saying whatever and however the Father was saying, just as God who is speaking in a Mirror and the Mirror reflects the Image of God, so that if God said to the Mirror 'before Abraham I am', then these words were revealed through Jesus, and He said 'before Abraham I am', the meaning is not that the individuality of Jesus existed before Abraham, but rather this was God who was speaking through Jesus, as Jesus said: "and the word which you hear is not Mine, but the Father's who sent Me. "
 
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InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
did Mohammad say this:

Matthew 19:4*In reply he said: “Did YOU not read that he who created them from [the] beginning made them male and female 5*and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will stick to his wife (singular), and the two will be one flesh’? 6*So that they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has yoked together let no man put apart.” 7*They said to him: “Why, then, did Moses prescribe giving a certificate of dismissal and divorcing her?” 8*He said to them: “Moses, out of regard for YOUR hardheartedness, made the concession to YOU of divorcing YOUR wives, but such has not been the case from [the] beginning. 9*I say to YOU that whoever divorces his wife, except on the ground of fornication, and marries another commits adultery.”

In essence Muhammad and Jesus said the same thing, but, Jesus lived in a different Age and society comparing to Muhammad. Each revealed teachings suitable for their own time. So for example when at the time of Jesus, there was too much divorce for wrong reason, Jesus said things to solve this Problem. So for example He said:
"Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery." Luke 16:18

In our time it makes no sense if a man marries a divorce woman commits adultery. These teachings were true in its own time, the older Ages. Muhammad came among different people, those who bury their daugters alive. So He brough teachings to solve the problems of His time.
Likewise Moses lived in a different Age than Jesus, and He revealed Laws to solve the Problems of His Age. So, the teaching of Jesus and Moses in essence are the same, since they came from same God, but with regards to how they are applied are different. Nontheless, Muhammad, Jesus and Muhammad, brought fairness and justice to the people of their time, and for them to do that, they revealed Laws and ordinances suitable for their own Age, and that is the reason appearently they said different things.
 
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