Opening ceremony for Olympics has drag queens resembling the Last Supper

[anna.]

It was a fashion show. People were on both sides of the catwalk. That photo was meant for people to think it was TLS. It wasn't.

This exactly. I just saw video for the first time this morning, from this different angle there's no Last Supper comparison at all.

Short (50 second) video at this link:

French entertainer who performed as a mostly nude Greek god during opening ceremony responds to controversy

Philippe Katerine, a boundary-pushing actor and singer, told Le Parisien newspaper that he was “proud” of the performance.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Since when has their been a blue guy in the Last Supper painting?

(The blue guy was Dionysus, by the way).

I think it was something Dan Brown revealed in that scene where you edit the image and edit again and again, ahh, yes, clearly the blue man is in it.

 

[I Am Hugh]

The extravagant opening ceremony of the 2024 Paris Olympics has caused fury among the populist and religious right in the United States and elsewhere, with critics especially unhappy about an apparent depiction of the Last Supper featuring drag performers.

Drag performance resembling Last Supper at Olympic opening ceremony rankles conservatives

When in Rome of decadence.

Spoiler: Nudity

Les Romains de la décadence, by Thomas Couture: 1847

 

[I Am Hugh]

But how in the world are Greek gods connected to the Olympics. I just don't get it!

All art is propaganda.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I think it was something Dan Brown revealed in that scene where you edit the image and edit again and again, ahh, yes, clearly the blue man is in it.

Oh, there he is!

 

[Shadow Wolf]

All art is propaganda.

Very wrong.

 

[I Am Hugh]

Very wrong.

That was my first reaction. It was said by George Orwell. I've read you for a long time before I posted here and I know you're a smart guy. Think about it. Pablo Picasso said "Art is the lie that enables us to realize the truth." That is also true. Propaganda is information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

Now, if you are going to do a piece on some cause you believe in how are you going to paint the picture? Ugly or beautiful depending upon your perspective of truth. That's propaganda. So, propaganda is usually thought of as lies that enable us to realize the truth. As we see it. And it is. Propaganda. Just look above where I used the Couture painting.

 

[Kfox]

The extravagant opening ceremony of the 2024 Paris Olympics has caused fury among the populist and religious right in the United States and elsewhere, with critics especially unhappy about an apparent depiction of the Last Supper featuring drag performers.

Drag performance resembling Last Supper at Olympic opening ceremony rankles conservatives

I'll bet cha they would NEVER do something equally offensive to Islam; for fear of being labeled Islamophobic.

 

[Viker]

I'll bet cha they would NEVER do something equally offensive to Islam; for fear of being labeled Islamophobic.

Only thing is that it has been demonstrated it was not a parody of the Last Supper. I don't ever recall a blue guy being at the Last Supper.

How would one go about parodying Islam? I don't even know where to get started.

 

[Viker]

That was my first reaction. It was said by George Orwell. I've read you for a long time before I posted here and I know you're a smart guy. Think about it. Pablo Picasso said "Art is the lie that enables us to realize the truth." That is also true. Propaganda is information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

Now, if you are going to do a piece on some cause you believe in how are you going to paint the picture? Ugly or beautiful depending upon your perspective of truth. That's propaganda. So, propaganda is usually thought of as lies that enable us to realize the truth. As we see it. And it is. Propaganda. Just look above where I used the Couture painting.

What of art that is merely an interpersonal expression? How would that be propaganda?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That was my first reaction. It was said by George Orwell. I've read you for a long time before I posted here and I know you're a smart guy. Think about it. Pablo Picasso said "Art is the lie that enables us to realize the truth." That is also true. Propaganda is information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

Now, if you are going to do a piece on some cause you believe in how are you going to paint the picture? Ugly or beautiful depending upon your perspective of truth. That's propaganda. So, propaganda is usually thought of as lies that enable us to realize the truth. As we see it. And it is. Propaganda. Just look above where I used the Couture painting.

You aren't an artist, are you?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

How would one go about parodying Islam? I don't even know where to get started.

Je suis Charlie. Although that wasn't making fun of Islam so much as it was extremist ****s.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I'll bet cha they would NEVER do something equally offensive to Islam; for fear of being labeled Islamophobic.

They didn't "do anything" to Christianity either.

 

[I Am Hugh]

You aren't an artist, are you?

Yes, actually I am. Well, in the past I was an award (that's a funny story) winning artist. Not anymore as such, but I still love art, music, literature. Just look at my website, I have art on every single page. From the 1500s to the present. Art is a reflection of truth. You can't just reflect part of the truth. Sometimes art, like truth, is ugly, sometimes beautiful. You can't say that isn't art because it doesn't reflect my truth like I would.

 

[I Am Hugh]

What of art that is merely an interpersonal expression?

That's what art is.

How would that be propaganda?

I've just explained that in the post to which you are responding. It's perspective. If I paint my world, I'm expressing my personal view of my world. Norman Rockwell, Andy Warhol, Dali, Michelangelo, van Gogh, Picasso, Marilyn Manson or Douglas Adams.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Seriously?! Historically speaking that couldn't possibly be more wrong. Not that Christianity didn't do wrong, they certainly did.

Sorry ... what?

 

[I Am Hugh]

Sorry ... what?

No, I'm sorry. My bad. I misunderstood the post. That's why I deleted my response. I agree with what you said.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yes, actually I am. Well, in the past I was an award (that's a funny story) winning artist. Not anymore as such, but I still love art, music, literature. Just look at my website, I have art on every single page. From the 1500s to the present. Art is a reflection of truth. You can't just reflect part of the truth. Sometimes art, like truth, is ugly, sometimes beautiful. You can't say that isn't art because it doesn't reflect my truth like I would.

Amd you think, wrongly, all art is propaganda?
And 1500s? Try ancient Greece and probably earlier.

 

[Viker]

That's what art is.



I've just explained that in the post to which you are responding. It's perspective. If I paint my world, I'm expressing my personal view of my world. Norman Rockwell, Andy Warhol, Dali, Michelangelo, van Gogh, Picasso, Marilyn Manson or Douglas Adams.

I'm going to have to go with the definition of propaganda on this one.

"information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view"

You're using the term too broadly. Not all art is propaganda. Is the Mona Lisa propaganda?

 

[I Am Hugh]

Amd you think, wrongly, all art is propaganda?

Wrongly? Why? You haven't told me why you think I'm wrong, you just keep repeating that I'm wrong.

And 1500s?

Yes. 1500s. I typically prefer art from the 18th and 19th century, but some of it goes back earlier than that.

Try ancient Greece and probably earlier.

Usually too early for my own personal taste, artistically speaking.