Opinion on Obama's Immigration Executive Action

[1robin]

Is that why Southwest Indians eat lamb that drink radioactively polluted water?

The Church Rock uranium mill spill is one of the worst radioactive spills in U.S. history. On July 16, 1979, a tailings pond at the Church Rock uranium mill, owned by United Nuclear Corporation, breached its dam and 93 million gallons (350,000 m) of radioactive, acidic uranium tailings solution flowed into the North Fork of the Puerco River. Approximately 1,100 short tons (1,000 t) of uranium mine waste contaminated 250 acres (100 ha) of land and up to 50 miles (80 km) of the Puerco River.

Puerco River - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You've been thoroughly indoctrinated to believe those lies...all lies....every single one of them, of which you are in total denial.

I did not end the discussion for any of the reasons you gave, but because it was off topic and others want to return to the main topic and continue posting here. I am perfectly satisfied with all of the points I made, and note that they were not just for your benefit, but for others reading here as well. The current border issue needs to be understood in the context of the issues that brought it into being, both historical and current, such as the NAFTA fiasco, and that is the information I have provided for them.

You deviously attempt to paint a picture of me that I am fabricating negative, baseless comments just to whine, and that you are the 'winner' of the debate. Anyone with a lick of sense can see right through your flimsy facade.

It is crystal clear to me that you are ignorant of the plight of the American Indian in general in today's world and that your view is filled with propaganda. What do you know about Black Mesa, where Peabody Coal Co. has spewed toxic coal dust that Hopi and Navajo breathe? Probably zilch.

Today at Black Mesa, buckets the size of a four-story building peel the topsoil off in mile-long strips—a technique called strip mining. Instead of burrowing into the earth to find the mineral seam, the land over the mineral deposit is removed. Bulldozers shape the underlayers into enormous slag heaps, workers dynamite the exposed mineral bed, and steam shovels load the coal into massive transport trucks. By the time the coal is extracted, the land has turned gray, all vegetation has disappeared, the air is filled with coal dust, the groundwater is contaminated with toxic runoff (sulphates particularly), and electric green ponds dot the landscape. Sheep that drink from such ponds at noon are dead by suppertime.

Here. Educate yourself:

The Black Mesa Syndrome: Indian Lands, Black Gold | Orion Magazine

There's still time for you to get off the Yellow Brick Road. Wake up!

Is this a post mortem appearance? I thought you were done.

I will respond to a person actively debating but not to one which quits without warning.

Which are you?

If you indicate your debating I will go back and respond to whatever you posted above.

 

[godnotgod]

Is this a post mortem appearance? I thought you were done.

I will respond to a person actively debating but not to one which quits without warning.

Which are you?

If you indicate your debating I will go back and respond to whatever you posted above.

Goodbye 1robin. There is no more to debate where light has shone.

 

[1robin]

Goodbye 1robin. There is no more to debate where light has shone.

You already said that once before and then came back from the dead to make another post.

 

[godnotgod]

You already said that once before and then came back from the dead to make another post.

There are no longer any posts from me about the debate content as the light shed on it has exposed your fallacious thinking.

 

[1robin]

There are no longer any posts from me about the debate content as the light shed on it has exposed your fallacious thinking.

It is truly depressing to think you could possibly have arrived at that conclusion. You can cure ignorance, there is nothing to help with cognitive dissonance.

 

[godnotgod]

It is truly depressing to think you could possibly have arrived at that conclusion. You can cure ignorance, there is nothing to help with cognitive dissonance.

What's far worse is to have the facts laid out right under your nose and to stubbornly refuse to acknowledge their veracity, while persisting in your delusion.

 

[1robin]

What's far worse is to have the facts laid out right under your nose and to stubbornly refuse to acknowledge their veracity, while persisting in your delusion.

Ok, this self cheerleading stuff has run it's course.

 

[godnotgod]

Ok, this self cheerleading stuff has run it's course.

So you're ready to quit the facade?

 

[1robin]

So you're ready to quit the facade?

Your the one who gave it up quite a few posts ago, not me. I gave you one last chance to stick with the debate and you balked at that as well, so since you left the playing field on which you never really competed anyway I no longer have any interest in the discussion.

 

[godnotgod]

Your the one who gave it up quite a few posts ago, not me. I gave you one last chance to stick with the debate and you balked at that as well, so since you left the playing field on which you never really competed anyway I no longer have any interest in the discussion.

The facts ended your facade. So why continue?

 

[1robin]

The facts ended your facade. So why continue?

I am the one that presented facts you gave me declarations and opinions devoid of facts and I pointed that out over and over and over again. Then you bailed on the whole thing. Then posted more declarations and generalizations devoid of facts. I said since you already bailed I would only continue if you promised not to quit again. To which you bailed on even that. So I am not continuing, only out of courtesy am I even explaining what occurred but that has been worn out. I will no longer respond to you on this discussion.

 

[godnotgod]

I am the one that presented facts you gave me declarations and opinions devoid of facts and I pointed that out over and over and over again. Then you bailed on the whole thing. Then posted more declarations and generalizations devoid of facts. I said since you already bailed I would only continue if you promised not to quit again. To which you bailed on even that. So I am not continuing, only out of courtesy am I even explaining what occurred but that has been worn out. I will no longer respond to you on this discussion.

Fact: The US instigated war against Mexico for the express purpose of securing more land for slavery.

Fact: Southwest Indian land, air, and water are deadly toxic due to radioactivity and coal dust pollutants because the US government is working hand in hand with private industry.

Fact: The general policy of the US government towards Indians has been removal and racial genocide.

Fact: NAFTA is destroying Mexican agriculture and her economy under the auspices of the US government. Because it is the cause of widespread unemployment in Mexico, criminal gangs have risen up.

Fact: Voracious American demand for hard drugs is fueling the drug wars and murders in Mexico.

Fact: American Indians had no concept of land ownership in the same way European settlers did.

etc, etc, etc.

Tilt. Game Over