Most of those who accept the concept of original sin (so far as I can tell) hold that we inherited original sin from Adam and Eve. That being said, how is it passed down? Is it in our genes? If it is indeed in our genes, what would happen if a scientist took a human zygote, removed its DNA and replaced it with a fully synthetic sequence of human DNA? Would this zygote no longer technically be related to Adam and Eve? Would that have any effect on whether or not the human that grew from the zygote had original sin?
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Original Sin and Genetic Engineering
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Demonslayer
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God's Infinite Grudge
Native
Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
Why would any god or goddess pass down a sin of death into their own creation? No, the story deals in generally with the concept of "life and death" i.e. how everything is created and how everything is going in cycles of creation.
There is NO "inherited original sin" at all.
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Native
Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
I agree on the literally part - but the story itself is really eternal because it deals with the creation as such - which still can be understood when knowing of the celestial imageries and symbols of the creation of the ancient known local part of the Universe.
I think you are overthinking an ancient story.
Demonslayer
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I think you're underestimating the number of people who still believe this story literally.
I mean, without the literal version of Original Sin, there is no reason for Jesus sacrifice and no real reason to be Christian. Except for the bake sales, Christians have the best bake sales.
To paraphrase Menken: For every substantive question there is an answer that is clear, simple, and worthless.
Native
Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
The Jesus sacrefice" is yet another case of biblical litteralism. The entire story of Mr. Jesus Christenson is similar to numerous other cultural myths of the "dying and rising god" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying-and-rising_god
Some alternative interpreters are connecting this myth to the seasons of the Sun and the light allegory. Personally I am more inclined to connect this mytheme to the revolving contours of the Milky Way as seen here - http://www.native-science.net/MilkyWay.GreatestGod.htm
If so, this man-like image can be observed i four cardinal positions as:
1. Standing - Rise
2. Flying - Ascension
3. Diving - Descension to the Underworld
4. Laying - Dead
1. Rise etc.
There is NO sacrifice but just a mytho-cosmological description of an assumed god in the Sky, resembled by the Milky Way contours.
Here´s another interresting link about this topic - http://www.biblicalcatholic.com/apologetics/JesusEvidenceCrucifiedSaviors.htm - Try yourself to combine the explanations with mine.
Demonslayer
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Yes I know, some of them are incredibly similar, like Horus for example.
Some interesting stuff here, but my main point was if there is no actual Original Sin, then there is nothing for Jesus' sacrifice to protect us from. If we're not all born going to hell, needing to swear allegiance to Jesus in order to get out of our fiery fate, than the whole Jesus narrative falls apart and there is no need to be Christian to be saved.
Walter Russell
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Shoel was the place Jews spoke of after death and it wasnt a place of punishment so there had to be a way to incentivize them to behave.
Whst better way than to threaten their children and grand children as punishment for the mis deeds of their life.
Oh and fyi The story of Pandoras box is another version of original sin.
It was mostly addressed to those who accept original sin as a reality.
That would give the OP zero replies so far.
Unfortunately.
I have seen a pattern on here with these type of things. The idea of Original Sin (and other Old Testament topics) are pretty easy targets for attack and the type that would believe in those things are not the type to produce a logical defense that goes as deep as you are trying to take the discussion down to zygotes and DNA. Better responses come with more challenging issues.
I believe it because the Bible SAYS IT!
That's what the pastor said he read.
The one on television with the mansion, private jet, and sexy secretaries.
It MUST be true, else why would the pastor preach such?
Thus I have NO NEED to read the Bible.
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That's what the pastor said he read.
The one on television with the mansion, private jet, and sexy secretaries.
It MUST be true, else why would the pastor preach such?
Thus I have NO NEED to read the Bible.
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