outhouse
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Many people use the term plagiarize, it is just not an academic term. It is being polite.
Its like saying the resurrection of jesus is mythology. That is what took place, but academia wont use the term mythology either.
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Origins of the Quran
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Many people use the term plagiarize, it is just not an academic term. It is being polite.
Its like saying the resurrection of jesus is mythology. That is what took place, but academia wont use the term mythology either.
You don't strengthen your points when you post something like that so easily refuted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outburst_flood has a number of mega floods which could be part of mythology today since they occurred when humans or intelligent pre-humans were around.
use_your_brain
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How could you come to the conclusion those graves are not the parts of the history?
use_your_brain
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Which passage or part in Quran is alleged not accurate information?
use_your_brain
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The mythology about Abraham and Moses are true, they did true exist.
outhouse
Atheistically
What part of they factually do not have historicity as ever existing, don't you understand?
Do you now what a fact is?
outhouse
Atheistically
Because they were attributed to these people thousands of years after they were supposed to exist.
The first ancient people who made this claim made guesses.
use_your_brain
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And it is your guess also, right?
outhouse
Atheistically
Its not a guess.
We already know Abraham and noah and moses did not exist as written
Israelites were polytheist long after the time of Abraham whom we know was a literary creation.
Israelites evolved from displaced Canaanites, there never was an exodus or conquest, which means no moses as leader
There was no flood of noah, no noah, no ship. we know where and when the mythology started
use_your_brain
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Who said Abraham and Moses did not exist? You? Who are you? a scientist? Have you produce such a scientific text about it?
use_your_brain
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The facts are pieces information that can be discovered and examined. And, yes, the facts about Abraham and Moses do exist. You don't know about that, right?
outhouse
Atheistically
Credible encyclopedias
use_your_brain
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What do they say about Abraham and Moses?
MARCELLO
Transitioning from male to female
Which passages are not?
use_your_brain
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ok then.
MARCELLO
Transitioning from male to female
sure
Redemptionsong
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The most damning passage, and one that must ultimately lead to a rejection of Muhammad as a prophet of God, is Sura 4:155 ff. In this passage, Muhammad makes it clear that he does not believe that Jesus was crucified. Yet Jesus' crucifixion is a central theme in the Bible.
One of the many convincing and beautiful things about the Bible is that it took nearly 1500 years to compile - not 23 years. No man could have achieved this alone. It required a chosen people, the descendents of Abraham (through Isaac), to maintain a continuous narrative and credible history. Muhammad was not an Israelite and would not have been chosen by God as a prophet. All the literary prophets were Israelites or Jews.
It should not be overlooked that the Quran is a supposed prophecy based on law. But Jesus, as the Saviour of the world, claims to have fulfilled the law. Why then, would the 'final prophet' of God return people to a condition under the law, rather than providing grace? It make no sense.
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use_your_brain
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The Saint Peter, the disciple of Jesus, witnessed that jesus was not crucified. The same thing with other disciple, Barnabas.
outhouse
Atheistically
That moses as leader of the Israelites cannot be substantiated verbatim
That they do not even try to make Abraham a historical character and that they gave up all hope a long time ago, because they know he was a literary creation.
outhouse
Atheistically
The real peter the follower of jesus never wrote a word.
Not one part of the NT has any eyewitnesses that wrote a single word.
There are no credible muslim scholars in the whole world, that have anything credible about Jesus. It is as fact as a historical fact can be that jesus was crucified.