Other Than "The Bible Tells Me So," Your Single Best Argument for Creationism

[Darkstorn]

Yes I did because thats how God reveals it to all of mankind. What else do you want? Do you want me to explain how He formed the molecules and the cells? What exactly are you asking for?

I would say that would be a start. What do you have to support the creationist view that isn't the bible?

Better yet, show us that it's a "he" and that it exists. THEN explain "his" methods. For fairness' sake, you cannot assume a premise that there must be a god. If you did, you would have to show the premise to be true first... Which is admittedly a problem. You're going to have to rely on faith.

 

[Sonofason]

So, *sigh* other than "The Bible Tells Me So," you have no argument for creationism. Fair enough.

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Nope, you fail the reading comprehension test. I suggest you reread what I said. Experience of God is not the Bible tells me so. Those who lack faith in God will continue to lack evidence of God. While you sigh, I will laugh.

 

[Darkstorn]

Experience of God is not the Bible tells me so.

I disagree. I think it's "bible tells me so." It's either that or you heard about it from someone else, such as your parents. But someone along the way got it verbatim from the bible, somehow. There is no denying that.

OR you have a reasonable non-bible based explanation. By all means, tell us.

While you sigh, I will laugh.

That doesn't sound very kind of you.

 

[Rapture Era]

No you didn't. Where are your details and methods?



You most certainly did not.



But that would be off-topic: This thread isn't about providing evidence for evolution.



I don't want to be off-topic. Why do you insists on being off-topic on purpose? To shift attention away from the fact that you used the bible told me so argument?



Seriously, make a separate thread. Right now it looks like you're trying to shift attention away from the original post and pollute the thread with your agenda.



You

"Ok, tell me what has changed in the scientific method to support evolution from Aristotle to 160 years ago to today?"
I'm not sure I get this question, as it doesn't seem to make much sense. So much has changed. Advancements in technology, experimentation, and advancements in the theory of evolution itself. More work has been done in evolutionary biology and more evidence has been produced to support the theory.

Actually, there hasn't been any evidence found that contradicts the theory of evolution by natural selection. If you have any contradictory evidence (not unanswered questions), I'd love to hear about it.

I gave it to you in post #29 READ IT! Educate yourself.

I would say that would be a start. What do you have to support the creationist view that isn't the bible?
Look around you. Look at all the life you see in plants, birds, fish, and all land breathing animals, insects, reptiles etc.. That is the best support and validates exactly what God said He did in the Genesis creation account. All life was created fully functioning to reproduce after its own kind.

Better yet, show us that it's a "he" and that it exists. THEN explain "his" methods. For fairness' sake, you cannot assume a premise that there must be a god. If you did, you would have to show the premise to be true first... Which is admittedly a problem. You're going to have to rely on faith.

Bingo! You got it, faith. Same thing an evolutionist must have because no one was there 3.8 bazillion years ago!

 

[Sonofason]

I disagree. I think it's "bible tells me so." It's either that or you heard about it from someone else, such as your parents. But someone along the way got it verbatim from the bible, somehow. There is no denying that.

OR you have a reasonable non-bible based explanation. By all means, tell us.



That doesn't sound very kind of you.

Doesn't matter if you disagree. Your opinion doesn't mean anything. There is only one opinion that matters, and that is my opinion.

 

[Darkstorn]

I gave it to you in post #29 READ IT! Educate yourself.

How about you educate us in your arguments FOR creationism. This thread isn't about evolution, you attacking evolution doesn't bring out arguments for creationism etc. This is starting to feel like an exercise in futility.

Make your own thread for your silly thesis. It's not an argument that answers the questions posed by the OP.

Bingo! You got it, faith. Same thing and evolutionist must have because no one was there 3.8 bazillion years ago!

With that kind of understanding i'm astounded you even managed to get the idea into your head that you must write a "thesis" attacking evolution with baseless claims. You couldn't even defend your own views, how do you expect to be able to properly attack the opposition? :/

I read parts of your thesis. If you want arguments against it, make a thread about it. It's entirely unrelated to this thread. I'll just say this: I suggest everyone read it. It was pretty damn unconvincing but i found a bunch of funny quotes to steal whenever i want to act like a clueless simpleton.

Doesn't matter if you disagree. Your opinion doesn't mean anything. There is only one opinion that matters, and that is my opinion.

 

[Rapture Era]

How about you educate us in your arguments FOR creationism. This thread isn't about evolution, you attacking evolution doesn't bring out arguments for creationism etc. This is starting to feel like an exercise in futility.

Make your own thread for your silly thesis. It's not an argument that answers the questions posed by the OP.



With that kind of understanding i'm astounded you even managed to get the idea into your head that you must write a "thesis" attacking evolution with baseless claims. You couldn't even defend your own views, how do you expect to be able to properly attack the opposition? :/

I read parts of your thesis. If you want arguments against it, make a thread about it. It's entirely unrelated to this thread. I'll just say this: I suggest everyone read it. It was pretty damn unconvincing but i found a bunch of funny quotes to steal whenever i want to act like a clueless simpleton.



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How about you educate us in your arguments FOR creationism. This thread isn't about evolution, you attacking evolution doesn't bring out arguments for creationism etc. This is starting to feel like an exercise in futility.

Make your own thread for your silly thesis. It's not an argument that answers the questions posed by the OP.



With that kind of understanding i'm astounded you even managed to get the idea into your head that you must write a "thesis" attacking evolution with baseless claims. You couldn't even defend your own views, how do you expect to be able to properly attack the opposition? :/

I read parts of your thesis. If you want arguments against it, make a thread about it. It's entirely unrelated to this thread. I'll just say this: I suggest everyone read it. It was pretty damn unconvincing but i found a bunch of funny quotes to steal whenever i want to act like a clueless simpleton.

I think you need to go back and read the first page of this thread. I was merely answering and asking questions to those who were making statements that had nothing to do with the question of this thread either. You can plainly see how it advanced to where it is now.

 

[Rapture Era]

How about you educate us in your arguments FOR creationism. This thread isn't about evolution, you attacking evolution doesn't bring out arguments for creationism etc. This is starting to feel like an exercise in futility.
Make your own thread for your silly thesis. It's not an argument that answers the questions posed by the OP.
I read parts of your thesis. If you want arguments against it, make a thread about it. It's entirely unrelated to this thread. I'll just say this: I suggest everyone read it. It was pretty damn unconvincing but i found a bunch of funny quotes to steal whenever i want to act like a clueless simpleton.

Why aren't you saying the same thing to those who are sporting links to prove evolution? Doesn't have anything to do with this thread either. You say this thread isn't about evolution, then why aren't you chastising others? I see you.

 

[Sonofason]

Why aren't you saying the same thing to those who are sporting links to prove evolution? Doesn't have anything to do with this thread either. You say this thread isn't about evolution, then why aren't you chastising others? I see you.

Name calling is all they really have. Look what they're trying to do to Trump, just name calling and lies. That's what they do to theists as well. I can only absorb so much. While it is true that sticks and stones break bones and names can never hurt you, sometimes it feels good to knock down the name caller with a firm right hook. I guess that's where I am right now.

 

[Jose Fly]

Don't like a thread, feel free to ignore it. It's just that simple.

???? I didn't say I don't like it; I merely noted that whenever these types of threads pop up, the creationists never seem to be able to muster a positive case for creationism.

 

[Altfish]

Most people don't understand the genesis of evolution. If they did, you would see that it makes no sense at all. Let me submit this to you. I'm going to send you a link of a thesis that will answer and educate anyone willing to seek truth in these matters. If you are willing, please read this and let me know what your best argument is for anything here that can be proven to be false. I realize that this may take a little time but it will be well worth your time. http://www.daylightorigins.com/wp-c...ort-history-of-evolution-and-its-problems.pdf

I got about half way down the first page when I read this...

"This natural scientist was Charles Robert Darwin, and the theory he formulated is known as “Darwinism”."

No scientist calls Darwin's theory 'Darwinism'. only creationists call it that.

I suspect it is going to be a long and painful read with many straw men.

 

[james bond]

1. God created the universe and life in six days as explained in Genesis and rested on the Sabbath. Creation is the Theory of Everything that the atheist scientists are looking for today. For some reason, the atheist scientists do not give credit to creation scientists, but they do not hesitate to steal their theories. The Bible has other history, and it explains how a perfect Adam and Eve started out human life by the glory of God. The rest of the plants and animals were created in their adult states. Adam and Eve had a perfect life of heaven on earth in the Garden of Eden. After some other huge events such as the Adam and Eve's sin of disobeying God, Tower of Babel and Noah's Flood, Jesus died for our sins and gave us a second chance so we could live a second life. You Only Live Twice. This is the best news of all as Judgment Day happens and all the spirits are sent to their eternal living space following Armageddon. The second best news is that it's the title of one of JB's top movies starring Sean Connery.
2. It's either that or a tiny invisible theoretical black hole expanded beyond anything the universe has ever seen, traveled faster than the speed of light, and kept going until all the solar systems fell into place and our Milky Way was incredibly lucky winning a one-in-trillions-trillions lotto to be placed the right distance from the sun and moon to give it just the right rotation so day and night are balanced and we get four seasons and all the water we need to sustain life for billions of years. The odds of one-in-trillions-trillions happening is such a long shot for our universe to stay together and life to form that there were other black holes that started other universes and other dimensions. The theory is there are ten other dimensions and a eleventh one of spacetime. There are even more black holes that started parallel universes, so that we can go back and forward in time and change history and create even more universes. The multiverse is so plentiful to overcome the trillions and trillions of odds so that it is just right for life. We started out as amoeba and no one knows how it came to be, but somehow another stroke of luck happened. It's related to primordial soup and lightning struck it or maybe an asteroid fell and into the soup and caused some kind of lucky chemical reaction to have amoeba life start it off. Once that happened, then plants and animals and all life as we know it evolved. There was tremendous amounts of rain such that the earth became covered mostly with water. This cause sea creatures to evolve first. Humans evolved from fish because they started to crawl on earth as tetrapods. Later, the tetrapods went back into the ocean and became whales. Other tetrapods became apes while birds evolved from dinosaurs. The apes were stupid until something happened to make them smart and use tools and walk on two legs even though they traveled faster and farther on fours and climbing and swinging through the trees. It was survival of the fittest and dogs started to eat other dogs. Later, racists and haters took this evolution theory and said it gave them right to kill millions of Jews and blacks for no good reason. They said white people were at the top of the food chain. I'm not sure what's going to happen next, but humans are not evolving properly for some reason and people are dying at an earlier age. Also, atheists will turn into Comminists and declare the world should be under one rule. This and other disagreements turn into a colossal World War III because of one reason or another. Both the Communists and Capitalists kill millions of each other off, and whoever is left take off for Mars in order to start a new world. They are never heard from again.

 

[Robert Vincelette]

What, in your opinion, is the alternative to the creation account from the biblical God?

Why does God, whom I do not know what He is, let alone whether He is, but let us take Him as a premise, have to conform to man-made fantasies the the poets who wrote the things that are in the Bible meant as symbols of things we cannot conceive and not descriptions of something as mundane as physical reality? Literal interpretation of allegories that can't express how we hurt a loving God by bullying each other through historical record keeping kills the power of such literature.

 

[HonestJoe]

How can speciation exist without understanding what preceeded it? Eventually, you will have to address this critical problem. Anyone who will be intellectually honest will realize there are no answers to how life started on this planet.

A Supernatural Being such as the biblical God can do whatever He pleases and doesn't need for me to fully understand His method. His method as described in the scriptures is, He spoke everything into existence. He is infinite, I am finite. Do I fully understand infinite? Not really. It would be like me explaining to a toddler how to do a brake job.

Don’t you have something of a double standard here? You dismiss evolutionary theory out of hand because not everything about it and what proceeded it is understood by us yet you expect creation by the specifically defined Biblical God to be unquestionably accepted despite saying that nothing about him is or can be understood by us.

 

[Infernal Devotion]

If life could just pop up on its own and adapt to environment I think you should see some on other planets.

We can see anything anything yet yet so I'm sorry that's a weak weak theory, no direspect but I'm not sure you really know how big this place is, there's as many stars as there are grains of sand on every beach.

 

[Infernal Devotion]

If this planet was made by "god" why would he/she need man to write a book. And on top of that being the rage full God he/she is why wouldn't all the editors that butchered that book be struck down .

 

[Kemosloby]

We can see anything anything yet yet so I'm sorry that's a weak weak theory, no direspect but I'm not sure you really know how big this place is, there's as many stars as there are grains of sand on every beach.

Coincidentally the same number as Abrahams seed. But I'm just laying it out there, that if life could just pop up and adapt to an environment why doesn't it on other planets? We have living creatures that live in basically boiling sulferic acid, certainly something should be able to live on another nearby planet.

Why don't you see any? Because God doesn't want it that way.

 

[Infernal Devotion]

Coincidentally the same number as Abrahams seed. But I'm just laying it out there, that if life could just pop up and adapt to an environment why doesn't it on other planets? We have living creatures that live in basically boiling sulferic acid, certainly something should be able to live on another nearby planet.

Why don't you see any? Because God doesn't want it that way.

We can only see a few planets there is billions. That's what your working with .....

 

[Infernal Devotion]

The aliens passing past earth and messing with a monkey's DNA is a more believeable story than a God making the universe

 

[Kemosloby]

We can only see a few planets there is billions. That's what your working with .....

That's even more evidence. You'd think the odds would be someone or something would have evolved enough for space travel, colonizing space etc. Since nobody has ever proven aliens exist we should assume we are alone in the universe.

Or if it was so easy for life to just pop up from nowhere even the other planets nears us should have some.