OtherKin

[Azakel]

As crazy as it my seem for some this plays a big part in my life was the best place to post this, in the Theological Concepts. Now first of all please no say that I or any one that believe this needs help, or is crazy and the whole throwing "The Book"(which every one it my for you) at me okay. It's happened a few time(I think only like 2 times really but it gets old quick).
Okay. What if are Soul are something different then what we think it might be. What if these Human bodies are vessels, learning tool for use to understand everythingthere is to know about this world and other world(as in a Multiverse). But on to what a really want to talk about(I was building up to it....hehe).
OtherKin: One who believes that there soul it not that of the human body that they are in. This can be anything from an animal of any kind(Dog, cat, wolf, tiger, bird, and so on), to what some call Mythical Being...i.e. Dragons, Fae, Elves, an Elemental of sort. And the 2 type it's hard for even us who are them to believe AngelKin and DemonKin. Now to start, Angels and "Daemons" do not belong to any one Religion or culture. They are all over. Now I am serious about this, this isn't some RPG thing though I know it can sound that it just "play" around right now and see where I'm coming from. This hard for me to talk about for the knowing that I might get bashed in a way. But I like talking about things that mean something to me. If you must know which of the last two I believe I am to help you in discussing this, I believe I am AngelKin. For why I'm here....I don't know for we are but man(or in human bodies) and don't know what the Will of God or the Gods are. Maybe I decided this, who know why.
I would just that to know what you all think of this matter, and if there is an one else here that feels the same way, if you are any of the OtherKin type, Religion doesn't matter, I know people who are Christian, Pagan, or any religion that believe they are Kin. And just to repeat myself: Please no Bashing, saying "O your just crazy get help" you can believe that just please be nice okay. And NO throwing your Religious Book at quoting it to make a point, it as already happened, if you can give me an answer on what you believe for yourself from what you feel instead of quoting a book please don't post.
In love, SoA(aka Azakel........< Angelic name :angel2

 

[Comet]

Ummm..... Okay, what I believe without a "book" quoting:

It doesn't matter what you are or what you think you are. We all end up in the same place.... where we all go, where we all began.

The "soul" is not of this human body, but it is "bound" to it for the learning process..... yet, all has happened before, so it doesn't matter at all.... for it did matter and is done now.

Not that I am making any more sence than you did in your post.... but I am not quoting books or anything

I believe that the ultimate goal is the ultimate fear. It is the only thing that can make us all whole....as one and as nothing. All as one as nothing. That is the only way I see. I see beyond me, beyond this place, beyond this world, beyond our eyes, beyond our imaginations.......... I see what must be, it is the only way I can see.....

 

[Azakel]

Ummm..... Okay, what I believe without a "book" quoting:

I should have been more clear on this part sorry. Sorry is it sounds like some time of rant, but I do get really tried of getting nothing but passages and quotes from people "Holy Book" we I talk to them about stuff like this. I want to know what they feel deep inside about this, not what there "Holy Books" say, I don't care what they say and if I want to know I will go read them, which I have of most. Just take a step back and truly thank about this, you don't have to agree that's okay, I've met a lot of people that think there's something wrong with me.

It doesn't matter what you are or what you think you are. We all end up in the same place.... where we all go, where we all began.

I see what your saying but I don't agree with it. I don't believe even are Spirits all came from the same place, and that do not all end up in the same place, i.e. what most call Heaven(or Hell depending on if some people are right....hehe). I don't believe in Heaven or Hell they most do, but that's a topic for a different time.

 

[Gentoo]

I've done some research on Otherkin, and I find it quite intriguing.. I can see some of myself in it, which is odd (as usually I have to make up names/labels for myself )

 

[Azakel]

Hehe ^_^ wow old thread of mine Sister Gentoo. After some long and deep self searching seeing myself as an OtherKin no longer fits(it seems that it was the way my energy out flow that made me think this, well before I learned better controlled).
I have come into the conclusion that I am Therian. I will go into this later(maybe).
Now that this post is on the 1st page I'll wait to see what people reply and how they do it.

 

[Erebus]

I've looked into it myself as I've always been interested in the more unusual subcultures. I have to admit that the majority (but by no means all) of the otherkin I've spoken to seem to simply be desperate to explain why they feel different from other people.
I do actually believe that otherkin beliefs are quite feasible however as I do believe in reincarnation. Ultimately, we will all have been many different animals, plants and spirits over the years and so for somebody to remember a previous existence or to feel more comfortable with another "species" (can spirits be considered a species?) doesn't seem that bizzare.
The point where I draw the line however (and I have seen this unfortunately) is when otherkin say things like, "So yeah I'm a Seraph sent by God on a secret mission. While I was in heaven I was going out with Raziel and had a one night stand with Lucifer... God that was a mistake. Incidently my kinform also looks just like this Manga character."

 

[Azakel]

"So yeah I'm a Seraph sent by God on a secret mission. While I was in heaven I was going out with Raziel and had a one night stand with Lucifer... God that was a mistake. Incidently my kinform also looks just like this Manga character."

Yeah they bug me to. Luckily must of the people within the Otherkin and Therian communities find them just has stupid and call them out.

 

[no-body]

In some ways they are an offshoot of the Larp and Furry community, at the very least they crossbreed with each other and share many of the same beliefs. It is... interesting.

I've read some incredibly ridiculous things from them though that makes me think a lot of them are a little touched in the head and looking for a group to belong to. But if it makes them happy spiritually, I can't see why it can't be turned into a good thing.

 

[Azakel]

In some ways they are an offshoot of the Larp and Furry community, at the very least they crossbreed with each other and share many of the same beliefs. It is... interesting.

Right...No.
They're(we're) not the same and it's considered some what of an Insult to think that we are.
If you think we're touched then fine, I say it shows that you really don't know much and haven't talk to vary many(like most other that say the same thing).

 

[no-body]

Right...No.
They're(we're) not the same and it's considered some what of an Insult to think that we are.
If you think we're touched then fine, I say it shows that you really don't know much and haven't talk to vary many(like most other that say the same thing).

From what I've seen of otherkin it is "internet spirituality" and seems to attracts those type of people. Biggest legitimate complaint I've seen is that they are always bad-a** supernatural creatures or animals, no one is ever a hermit crab or something lame.

But I'll admit I haven't done more than skim some of the their forums which only get passed around because they hold the craziest ideas.

Therianism seems a lot more legitimate than Otherkin. No disrespect intended.

 

[Azakel]

From what I've seen of otherkin it is "internet spirituality" and seems to attracts those type of people. Biggest legitimate complaint I've seen is that they are always bad-a** supernatural creatures or animals, no one is ever a hermit crab or something lame.

But I'll admit I haven't done more than skim some of the their forums which only get passed around because they hold the craziest ideas.

Therianism seems a lot more legitimate than Otherkin. No disrespect intended.

Okay,well I'll agree that Therianism seems more legitimate(being one myself), and I will also agree that if one just skim and doesn't spend the time really talking to and looking into it Other-Kin and even Therianism can come off silly. I do think that only about a fraction of Other-Kin and Therians are what they say.
A good number in both group will all was claim to be a Dragon, Elf, or even a Wolf.
But if you spend enough time you will find some of the not so normal kind.
I know someone that is an Armadillo.
And the thing about Furries, not all of them are the same. Not all fell the need to dress up in suits and prance around.
I considered myself both a Therian and a Furry(yes I said it)......I felt like being open, I've been here long enough.
(now let us see how these turns out).
I think we should all remember that this is a Discussion area.

 

[Gentoo]

From what I've seen of otherkin it is "internet spirituality" and seems to attracts those type of people. Biggest legitimate complaint I've seen is that they are always bad-a** supernatural creatures or animals, no one is ever a hermit crab or something lame.

But I'll admit I haven't done more than skim some of the their forums which only get passed around because they hold the craziest ideas.

That explains that..

 

[Yes Man]

Sounds kind of like shamanism in that people feel a connection to a certain animal and become possessed by the animal spirits. Of course I doubt many Otherkin or Therians dabble in ritual possession but just a thought.

 

[Erebus]

Otherkin are pretty fun to troll I guess. I mean, it's hard to be even more ridiculous and repulsive than furries, but they found a way it seems.

People's obsession with personifying and sexualizing animals is pretty ****** up sometimes.

That's not really very fair. I admit I'm not struck on most otherkin, but plenty of them are decent enough people. Also I've never spoken to any otherkin who sexualized animals at all. Sexualizing angels on the other hand...

 

[painted wolf]

Not all furries sexualize animals.

I'm a therian but I don't engage in the "community" as I'm far to intolerant of 'fuzzies'... and that often includes "OtherKin" as I really don't buy into mythological critters as anything more than good story telling.

And no, being a therian is not the same as being 'shamanist', I know this from personal experience.

wa:do

 

[Azakel]

Not all furries sexualize animals.

I'm a therian but I don't engage in the "community" as I'm far to intolerant of 'fuzzies'... and that often includes "OtherKin" as I really don't buy into mythological critters as anything more than good story telling.

And no, being a therian is not the same as being 'shamanist', I know this from personal experience.

wa:do

Thank you Painted Wolf, I know there was at lest one other Therian on here(and thought you said something about it in the past).
May I ask way you have an intolerance toward 'fuzzies'(do you mean Furries)? Or I'm I missing something friend(if you wise to send me a PM I would like to talk more about this).

 

[Azakel]

Not all furries sexualize animals.

True, and even then those that might hold a sexual feeling it's not towards animals but Anthros. There is a difference.

 

[painted wolf]

Fuzzies are IMHO those who claim to be Werewolves for example, then say they could never hurt a bunny... or they are a wolf "with wings".... Or claim to be a cat one time then change their mind and now they are a fox or whatever is trendy. Or that they are some sort of hybrid... "wolf-lion-bat-dragon thing"
I often lump those that claim to be a mythical creature in here... I've never heard anyone exclaim existential crisis at not really existing.

Furries don't actually claim to "be" their species of choice, and they can have several "fursonias".

wa:do

 

[Azakel]

Fuzzies are IMHO those who claim to be Werewolves for example, then say they could never hurt a bunny... or they are a wolf "with wings".... Or claim to be a cat one time then change their mind and now they are a fox or whatever is trendy. Or that they are some sort of hybrid... "wolf-lion-bat-dragon thing"
I often lump those that claim to be a mythical creature in here... I've never heard anyone exclaim existential crisis at not really existing.

Okay I see what you mean and I agree. They bug me big time, they remind me of the Fluffies one might find in Wicca and Neo-Paganism

Furries don't actually claim to "be" their species of choice, and they can have several "fursonias".

I got that ^_^ And I see that a the majority type of Furry. There are(IMO) another type of "Furry". One that doesn't necessarily feel the need for a Suit(perhaps it might be that one can be both a Therian and Furry in there own right??)

wa:do

Your welcome and Thank you ^_^

 

[painted wolf]

I actually have never met a fursuiter.... I have a few friends who are furs and they know suiters but I have yet to meet one.

I also know another Therian and we both enjoy many aspects of the fur community.

wa:do