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Ouija boards

pearl

Well-Known Member
Never was one to actually believe in their power, but love most movies about them.
As a teenager one of my son's favorite games was Dungeons and Dragons. Back then it was
sitting around the dining room table with three or four friends with book, pads and pencils and strategy plans.

The origins of the Ouija board actually lie at the intersection of two other American phenomena, neither of which has anything to do with the devil or the Catholic Church.

The first is Spiritualism, a major 19th-century religious movement in which people believed that it was possible to communicate with the dead. By many accounts, this phenomenon began with two teenage girls in upstate New York. In 1848, Kate and Maggie Fox told a neighbor of theirs that something crazy was happening in their house. When the neighbor came over, the girls began to talk to the house, and they heard knocking sounds in response. The girls said this was happening every evening, and they had come to believe that spirits of dead people were communicating with them.

(Now, as Smithsonian Magazine points out, the girls brought their neighbor over on March 31st, the night before April Fool’s Day, and they were teenagers, so…)


Soon after, the family moved out of the house, and the two girls were sent to live with their older sister in Rochester. That might have been the end of the story, except for the fact that their sister retained a strong interest in what they were doing, and Rochester at the time was a community with a lot of interest in unusual religious experiences. Joseph Smith is said to have received from the Angel Moroni the golden plates that led to the founding of Mormonism in the area just a couple decades before. More recently the Millerite movement, which predicted that Jesus would return to cleanse the Earth on Oct. 22, 1844, had also been very popular in the region. When Jesus didn’t show up, one of its members had a vision of him working in heaven that would become a foundation of the Seventh Day Adventists, who wait for Jesus to return.

As it turns out, two girls who claimed they could speak to the dead went over really well—not just in town but everywhere else. Before long they were touring the United States. Their act got more and more complex: Rather than just “knock one for yes, two for no” type questions, they began to have the spirits spell out words, by reading through the letters of the alphabet and waiting for the spirits to knock. “Talking boards,” in which spirits were able to spell out words via letters on a board, was an outgrowth of that.


Years later, younger sister Maggie would recant the whole thing, showing in public demonstrations how she and her sister had made the sounds using apples on string and the crack of their own knuckles and joints. Still, it’s important to note that the attraction to Spiritualism was an outgrowth of something very real: the grief and disconnection people felt at the loss of their loved ones. The movement really took off after the Civil War, during which so many across the country had lost parents and children far away and without any real knowledge of how they died. Con artists like the Foxes and devices like talking boards offered a way for people to get some closure and say goodbye. There was a similarly inspired resurgence in the 1920s after the Spanish flu pandemic. Somewhere along the way talking boards became such a common part of life that President Grover Cleveland was given one for his wedding to Frances Folsom in 1886.

The Ouija board itself was far more a product of capitalism than Spiritualism. Charles Kennard was a failed Baltimore fertilizer salesman who read about the popularity of talking boards and got a local attorney to invest in a business of selling one of their own. The name “Ouija” is often explained as the French and German for “yes” put together, but in fact it came from Kennard’s sister-in-law, a self-professed medium, who said she had asked the spirits what they should call the board and had been given the word “Ouija,” which they said meant “good luck.” (Baltimore Magazine notes the word was also on the locket she was wearing at the time.)


When asked if he believed the Ouija board actually had the capacity to contact the dead, longtime head of the company William Fuld replied, “I should say not. I’m no spiritualist. I’m a Presbyterian.”

So Wait, How did a Kid’s Toy Get Connected to the Devil?
While many Christians were Spiritualists, the Catholic Church had never supported these forms of talking to the dead. In 1898 a decree of the Holy Office condemned automatic writing, which included any practices in which spirits were believed to guide the hand of the living. In 1917 it likewise condemned any sort of participation in séances, including just watching.

Intriguingly, as Spiritualism expert Herbert Thurston points out, in neither decree did the church fully shut the door on such practices. “To genuine students who are well grounded in theological principles and sufficiently versed in psychology to deal with these manifestations in a scientific spirit,” Mr. Thurston explains, “permission may be accorded to experiment with a medium and attend seances.” The church wanted to protect the young, the uneducated, the idle—those who were most vulnerable to the potential dangers of these practices. But they allowed for the possibility of genuine, scientifically informed research.


Still, there were stories of Ouija boards leading to strange and terrible things, like the Cincinnati couple who tore their home to shreds and threatened to kill their children because, they said, American journalist and politician Horace Greeley had told them to do it on a Ouija board. In another Ohio story, an entire community went on a massive treasure hunt as a result of information “learned” from a Ouija board. A woman in Buffalo, N.Y., was beaten to death by a local widow after the widow’s dead husband supposedly spoke to her on a board claiming the woman was a witch who had killed him.

But the key moment in our current understanding of the Ouija board seems to be the 1971 book The Exorcist and the 1973 film adaptation. “The Exorcist” tells the story of a girl who has been using a board to communicate with a spirit known as “Captain Howdy” and is then nightmarishly possessed. Across the country and beyond, the book and movie were a sensation. The lines to get into the film were endless, the flight of terrified viewers out of the theaters frequent, its power over the popular imagination almost immediate.

A decade later, the Catechism of the Catholic Church would condemn “all forms of divination,” saying “all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone.” (No. 2116)

As you might imagine, there has been a lot of investigation into how exactly a Ouija board works. How is it possible that you can place your fingers on a little plastic planchette and have it start moving at all?

It turns out, it’s actually a lot less surprising than you might think. The “ideomotor effect” is a scientifically established phenomenon in which the body unconsciously creates tiny involuntary physical movements based upon our mental images. Put simply: If we visualize a person or event, our bodies will sometimes respond with small muscle movements. For instance, you know how we sometimes suddenly jerk awake out of a dream? That’s a dramatic version of the same thing. (This BBC article has a great little experiment to prove this is in fact a real thing that is happening in all of us all the time.)

When it comes to automatic writing or talking boards, what’s going on is that kind of subconscious conversation between your brain and your body. Your brain sends out certain images as you ask a question; your fingers unconsciously respond with movement.

If we do think that a spiritual plane of existence might include forces that are malevolent or just plain indifferent to humanity, why would we want to do anything that might see us tangling with them?

As Vox points out in its study of the Ouija board, there are some very good reasons to accept this explanation over the idea that spirits are speaking through us. For instance, when people are blindfolded, the answers they get from the board are often gibberish. It makes sense: If you can’t see the board, your fingers can’t guide your hands correctly. But why would a spirit need you to be able to see? In fact, why would a spirit need to use your hands at all? Why couldn’t it just move the planchette on its own?

So from a scientific point of view, the Ouija board has nothing to do with spirits or the devil. It’s just a toy that plays upon a natural but little-known process of the body, just like the Fox sisters were not actually talking to the dead; they were playing havoc with their joints. (Oy, the arthritis they must have had later.)



Explainer: What Catholics need to know about Ouija boards | America Magazine
 

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
Ouija boards are trivially easy to debunk. I did this once and lost some friends as a result.

Have the people with their hands on the glass piece wear blindfolds then spin the board, and have the person recording the letters/numbers that it lands on just write them down without saying them out loud.

The results will be complete gibberish, every time.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
I think that the Ouija board is an interesting topic to discuss, and one that I'm knowledgeable about. As a spiritualist, I'm familiar with who the Fox sisters were, and I'm familiar with the history of the spirit board. But in contrast to the viewpoint expressed in the OP and the post before mine, I have a different perspective on the Ouija board. I believe that a spirit board should be used with caution because it has the potential to be a highly effective spiritual tool for contacting the dead. I don't believe that it is a harmless children's toy that anyone can casually use for entertainment or to scare their friends, or carelessly use while attempting to contact the dead in a séance. I've already advised a close friend not to use her new Ouija board on her own. She purchased it for a séance that she had planned for the night before Halloween. I suggested that she reschedule the séance for a night when I could be present or I could suggest another close friend who also has the psychic ability to communicate with spirits. She agreed to reschedule the séance after I explained to her that I think if she used the Ouija board on her own, then it's possible for her to invite a hostile human spirit or non-human entity into her home without realizing it until it's too late. She agreed to reschedule the séance until the night after Halloween when I could be present. She also told me that she would be more at ease if I was there to help her communicate with the spirits. My close friend is aware of my abilities because I helped her deal with a spirit in her house that had followed her home from work.

Admittedly, for many years I had a negative attitude towards the Ouija board because of a frightening experience I had with one when I was 17 years old. I was young at the time, so I had no idea how it would affect me, and I had little to no prior experience interacting and communicating with spirits either. However, during the past few weeks, my viewpoint on the Ouija board has notably changed, and I credit this to a couple of friends who have a lot of experience with the spirit board as a way to relay messages from the dead, and as psychic mediums, they both have many more years of experience communicating and interacting with the spirits than I do.
 
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pearl

Well-Known Member
I think that the Ouija board is an interesting topic to discuss, and one that I'm knowledgeable about. As a spiritualist, I'm familiar with who the Fox sisters were, and I'm familiar with the history of the spirit board. But in contrast to the viewpoint expressed in the OP and the post before mine, I have a different perspective on the Ouija board. I believe that a spirit board should be used with caution because it has the potential to be a highly effective spiritual tool for contacting the dead. I don't believe that it is a harmless children's toy that anyone can casually use for entertainment or to scare their friends, or carelessly use while attempting to contact the dead in a séance.

Very interesting, thank you. While I may find them fascinating, I have no intention to use a Ouija board.
Never really took them seriously, but again, it may be a mystery better left as such. There are so many movies concerning Ouija boards, from horror to comedy, but one the only one I actually enjoyed was 'Witchboard', 1986. Witchboard (1986) - ALL HORROR
Of course, now is the time of year that interest peaks. Back in the 80's we knew a college professor who dealt with the 'occult'. He and his class would spend the night in an old cemetery 'Spider Gates'
.Haunted Quaker Cemetery, Known As Spider Gates Cemetery (anomalien.com)

Of course it all depended on the person telling the story, and how much they would embellish it, but the last gate, the eighth gate, always had the same outcome for the poor soul who passed through it. It was said that the eighth gate was the “Gate to Hell”, and that when one passed through this gate there was no return. Even if they were to make it back out – which of course it was told nobody ever did – that the demons would follow them, and they would be thrown into an irreversible madness for the rest of their days.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
I once used a ouija board and received a telemarketing call right after. It was at that point that I realized how dangerous those things can be.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
Of course, now is the time of year that interest peaks.

Yes, it is. Although I love the ambiance of Halloween and it's my favorite holiday of the year, it is also really chaotic, stressful, and exhausting for me. I have a couple of weeks (give or take) of feeling the atmosphere being energized leading up to Halloween; a 24-hour period of crazy activity on Halloween when the Veil is the thinnest; and then a day or so afterward before the activity tapers off.

Back in the 80's we knew a college professor who dealt with the 'occult'. He and his class would spend the night in an old cemetery 'Spider Gates'
.Haunted Quaker Cemetery, Known As Spider Gates Cemetery (anomalien.com)

Of course it all depended on the person telling the story, and how much they would embellish it, but the last gate, the eighth gate, always had the same outcome for the poor soul who passed through it. It was said that the eighth gate was the “Gate to Hell”, and that when one passed through this gate there was no return. Even if they were to make it back out – which of course it was told nobody ever did – that the demons would follow them, and they would be thrown into an irreversible madness for the rest of their days.

I think that is a very interesting story. Thank you for sharing it with me.
 
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pearl

Well-Known Member
Although I love the ambiance of Halloween and it's my favorite holiday of the year, it is also really chaotic, stressful, and exhausting for me.

The same with my eldest daughter, but not quite for the same reasons. It takes her two weeks to prepare the front yard with numerous automated demons, fog, sounds etc.
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
Toy??? It's the real deal and it could be dangerous, what on earth, a toy? Kids should stay away from ouija!

You are quoting 'toy' from the author's opinion in the article. I would not say it is simply a 'toy'.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Ouija boards are trivially easy to debunk. I did this once and lost some friends as a result.

Have the people with their hands on the glass piece wear blindfolds then spin the board, and have the person recording the letters/numbers that it lands on just write them down without saying them out loud.

The results will be complete gibberish, every time.

I believe all that proves is that there was nothing supernatural going on in those instances.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
The spirits, not the people holding the planchette, are what make a Ouija board session successful. Therefore, it won't matter if the people using the Ouija Board wear blindfolds, spin the board, and have just one person write down the letters and numbers instead of uttering them aloud. As long as the spirits have enough reserve energy to move the planchette on the board, any message they are trying to convey through the spirit board will be correctly interrupted and understood. If there is only one spirit and that spirit has enough reserve energy to move the planchette on the board, then their message will also be correctly interrupted and understood. If there is a psychic medium present, he or she could communicate with the spirit(s) or channel the spirit(s) to confirm the message.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Then try it yourself, or with others. Like I said, I guarantee the results will be gibberish....every single time.

My wife did a reading. The message she got was in Latin. Since she was not educated in Latin she had to ask me what it meant. This precludes the operator from having maneuvered the answer. The downside was that she contracted a demon that caused her problems until she sang Jesus Loves Me which caused it to leave and never return.
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
My wife did a reading. The message she got was in Latin. Since she was not educated in Latin she had to ask me what it meant. This precludes the operator from having maneuvered the answer. The downside was that she contracted a demon that caused her problems until she sang Jesus Loves Me which caused it to leave and never return.

Well, that must have been quite the experience, can you translate for us the Latin?
 

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
My wife did a reading. The message she got was in Latin. Since she was not educated in Latin she had to ask me what it meant. This precludes the operator from having maneuvered the answer. The downside was that she contracted a demon that caused her problems until she sang Jesus Loves Me which caused it to leave and never return.
Was she wearing a blindfold and had the board been spun around before she did the reading?
 

Glaurung

Denizen of Niflheim
I believe genuine paranormal experiences are rare. So of course the Ouija board is a nothingburger most of the time. Nonetheless, I do believe in the paranormal so I don't reject the possibility of something preternatural actually answering a user's invitation for communication. It's like the UFO phenomenon. That most sightings have mundane explanations does not mean all sightings have mundane explanations.

Was she wearing a blindfold and had the board been spun around before she did the reading?
If I sat down for a Ouija board session and received coherent answers in a language I didn't know then I think that would require an explanation. It would trigger my curiosity at the very least.
 
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