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A lot of metal. Probably not bad if you are into dark metal.So here are all the Pagan bands that I listen to, with an example of their music:
It's rude to bash people's tastes in music, which you don't seem to really be familiar with in the first place. Post what you like and move on. Keep your preachy, judgemental bs to yourself.A lot of metal. Probably not bad if you are into dark metal.
But is that "Pagan" music? To me it does really relate to anything Pagan. Pagan music is simply folks songs, and those are not gloomy, dark or heavy at all and only have light instrumentation. These songs are about simple things in life. We should not create the idea that Pagans are somewhat depressed people wandering the woods thinking about war and revenge.
That is untrue. It is Abrahamism that descended like a dark cloud on people allowing for only one hope in life: salvation. Even if Catholicism has become less suffocating than Judaism or Islam. Protestantism often can be pretty depressing, even forbidding people to laugh. And look at those monks who were locked into there cells and whose saying was "ora et labora" (life is pray and work). I find Abramist religions pretty gloomy . This idea that life is a valley of tears but we should all rejoice because we can have a better afterlife, offers little hope in life, just hope that suffering ends in death if we voluntarily accept suffering in life.
So called "Pagan music" has little to do with the music of out ancestors. One can better look for folk and country music. Because Pagan music is folk music of country dwellers, music of the people by the people, cheerful and happy, because Pagans rejoice(d) in life. Before Christianity Pagans in the Roman empire had 180 holy days in which they revered the Gods in festivities. They only worked 4 hours a day. And those people were worse off than our ancestors in the north that remained free and lived on subsistence agriculture and only produced what they needed for their own use and did not have to pay taxes.
Today we are still living the same Abrahamist slave system, we only have less holidays and work more hours. It even recently increased as they managed to fool women into thinking they should enter wage slavery as well. In return we get these luxury goods to feed into out greed and keep us working. That is what the Jews, Romans and Arabs brought. They forced taxes on people forcing them to produce for others and brought luxury goods to entice them to produce for trade. That is the greed system that is now bringing the whole Earth to her knees. If you read the Bible carefully you will discover it brings a slave system, and the Romans adopted that to their own benefit. We have been suffering from that ever since.
But remember that the Pagans we are talking about were free people, and they were free spirited people as well. They were generally joyful people, except for big disasters. Even if they had to work hard in areas where Nature was harsh. Because this brings people together in very close knit social structures. They were generally happy people, unless disaster struck them.
On the other hand look at Rome, that was nicknamed "the devourer of people", the head of the empire where all wealth was gathered that was extracted and extorted from the colonies. It had all this high culture, but only if you were fortunate enough. The USA is the next iteration of this empire, unimaginably rich, but still having lots of people living in poverty, because this system lives on poverty as it needs cheap soldiers and workers. It is a demonic system in which not the welfare of the people is important but driving the slave production to the highest levels. If young people are drawn to dark metal that simply reflects their state op mind, because that is not something lighthearted people would seek.
So rather than concentrate on gloomy dark metal music, lets concentrate on joyous folk songs. Sure some folk songs tell a sad story, because misfortune is part of life too, but that is only a small part of life. People may not be aware of this, but playing dark metal is actually embracing spirits of darkness. Well if that is your thing, fine, but do not present it as "Pagan" except in modern youth culture.
Simple children's song have more to do with Pagan songs. Even American country music has more to do with our ancestors music tradition than dark metal. Dark metal is youth subculture stuff. It tells a lot about our society that youngsters descend in that. And walking in bear skins? That may have been useful in cold climates, but it is shown off as some kind of warrior dress with swords and axes and stuff. Some thousand years ago there indeed were problematic gangs of youth roaming the countryside, the wolves men and bear men that plundered the countryside and engaged in battles wit each other, rather like modern football hooligans. But to make such outlaws representative for our ancestors culture is nonsense. People generally lived very happily on the countryside in close-knit communities. And these war lords were more like a big nuisance. The Vikings were not the pride of the Norse people but mainly outlaws and anti-social elements hat were thrown out when things got overcrowded, so they started roaming coastal areas in search for wealth and abduct people to sell as slaves in the middle east. Nothing I want to identify with even if they were excellent warriors.
So here something that I think is closer to Pagan music even it is modern
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We have pretty much the same tastes! Nice!So here are all the Pagan bands that I listen to, with an example of their music:
Arkona (Russia): Slav'sya, Rus!, Liki Bessmertnykh Bogov, V Pogone Za Beloj Tenyu, Na Moey Zemle
Cruachan (Ireland): Blood for the Blood God
Danheim (Denmark): Herja (full album)
Eluveitie (Switzerland): The Call of the Mountains
Ensiferum (Finnish): From Afar
Faun (Germany): Walpurgisnacht (Director's Cut), Sonnenreigen [Snippet], Federkleid
Fferyllt (Russia): Yule
Finntroll (Sweden): Under Bergets Rot
Garmama (Sweden): Black
Gjallarhorn (Finland): Suvetar
Grai (Russia): Song of Mother Earth
Hagalaz Runedance (Germany): Frigga's Web
Hedningarna (Sweden/Finland): Drafur Och Gildur
Heidevolk (Netherlands): Yngwaz' Zonen
Heilung (Germany, Denmark, Norway): Lifa (full show- I HIGHLY recommend watching this)
Kalevala (Russian): Nagryanuli
Korpiklaani (Finland): Rauta, Ämmänhauta
Ladushka (Russia): Neba Berega
Lumsk (Norway): I Trollhender
Manegarm (Sweden): Odin Owns Ye All
Metsatoll (Estonia): Vaid Vaprust, Kuu,
Omnia (Netherlands): I Don't Speak Human, Earth Warrior
Poeta Magica (Germany): Du Sam Har Mitt Hela Hjärta
Troll Gnyot El' (Russia): Ave, Celia!, Zhopotras
Wardruna (Norway): Voluspá, Raido
Woodscream (Russia): Alan
Almost none of that is Dark Metal. The only band that would come close is Cruachan, who are decidedly Pagan. A lot more of it is folk music (bands like Faun, Omnia, Hedningarna, and Gjallarhorn). The songs also ring with a lot of Pagan meaning. Pagan music isn't like Christian music; it's not all hymns and praising the gods. It is also a celebration of the Earth, of culture, and of the peoples that make up a specific branch of Paganism. You will get songs of joy and celebration, sorrow and remembrance, war and vengeance. Songs of myth, history, and fun. It cannot be all love and light.A lot of metal. Probably not bad if you are into dark metal.
Well, that's you. Fact is that yes, it is Pagan music in that the artists are Pagan (and reason as to why I didn't include bands like Amon Amarth or Tyr - bands who play songs about Norse mythology, and who's band members are more-or-less Atheistic). Some, like Masha Arkhipova (Arkona), take serious roles in Pagan religion. Artists like Einar Selvik (Wardruna) are modern skalds, bringing to us the poems and myths of the past, and making new stories to teach the old lessons with. Other's like Sik Stevens and Jenny Van der Harten (Omnia) lead many awareness campaigns for nature conservation, environmentalism, and Green Pagan living.But is that "Pagan" music? To me it does really relate to anything Pagan.
That is a part of life, and stories told by skalds and Pagan artists inevitably will include war and revenge. Paganism can't be all Love and Light. Your focus on "dark gloomy metal" more tells me that you didn't sample the full range of artists that I offered. I will continue to present this all as Pagan music, despite your constant haranguing that any Pagan tradition and view but your own Rose-Tinted one is not Pagan. Need it be reminded that just because Wicca - or whatever you personally practice - is Pagan, not all Paganism is Wiccan.Pagan music is simply folks songs, and those are not gloomy, dark or heavy at all and only have light instrumentation. These songs are about simple things in life. We should not create the idea that Pagans are somewhat depressed people wandering the woods thinking about war and revenge.
Cruachan also sing about several Celtic myths, such as seen in The Brown Bull of Cooly, which tells the myth of Donn Cúailnge, a bull sacred to the Morrighan, and features the cultural hero Cuchulainn.
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please help me with making a list of Pagan / Wiccan song titles and artists. I am completely new to this topic and thus I don't know where to start. Thanks for your suggestions!
.....our ancestors in the north that remained free and lived on subsistence agriculture and only produced what they needed for their own use and did not have to pay taxes..........But remember that the Pagans we are talking about were free people, and they were free spirited people as well. They were generally joyful people, except for big disasters. Even if they had to work hard in areas where Nature was harsh. Because this brings people together in very close knit social structures. They were generally happy people, unless disaster struck them.
The Vikings were not the pride of the Norse people but mainly outlaws and anti-social elements hat were thrown out when things got overcrowded, so they started roaming coastal areas in search for wealth and abduct people to sell as slaves in the middle east..
We have very different views on my ancestor's culture.They are certainly more Pagan in genre than artists like Hugo Duncan or Anne Murray - songs and artists that don't touch on much of anything related to Paganism at all.
I have different informationIf you are discussing the Germanic tribes (of which the Norse are a group), I think you may have rose coloured glasses. Life was tough, life expectancy short, infant mortality high, girls married at 12, slavery was endemic and war/land shortage/ climate change drove the Germanic tribes to leave their homes (hence the term migration age).
They also were not only subsistence farmers (early tribal agricultural economy was based on cattle) they traded amber, timber, furs, some minerals and slaves (some of whom would have been rival Germanic tribesmen) and some served as foederati in the Roman Army/Navy.
They did actually pay tax in the form of tolls and tribute.
This came from a scientist specialized in the field. I have no reason to doubt it.No, that is a pejorative stereotype. Vikings were not outlaws or anti social elements, outlawry is an entirely different concept under medieval Norse law.
Well, that's you. Fact is that yes, it is Pagan music in that the artists are Pagan (and reason as to why I didn't include bands like Amon Amarth or Tyr - bands who play songs about Norse mythology, and who's band members are more-or-less Atheistic). Some, like Masha Arkhipova (Arkona), take serious roles in Pagan religion. Artists like Einar Selvik (Wardruna) are modern skalds, bringing to us the poems and myths of the past, and making new stories to teach the old lessons with. Other's like Sik Stevens and Jenny Van der Harten (Omnia) lead many awareness campaigns for nature conservation, environmentalism, and Green Pagan living.
They are certainly more Pagan in genre than artists like Hugo Duncan or Anne Murray - songs and artists that don't touch on much of anything related to Paganism at all.
That is a part of life, and stories told by skalds and Pagan artists inevitably will include war and revenge. Paganism can't be all Love and Light. Your focus on "dark gloomy metal" more tells me that you didn't sample the full range of artists that I offered. I will continue to present this all as Pagan music, despite your constant haranguing that any Pagan tradition and view but your own Rose-Tinted one is not Pagan. Need it be reminded that just because Wicca - or whatever you personally practice - is Pagan, not all Paganism is Wiccan.
They're pretty awesome. They're definitely a folk metal group. Some people only think revived European polytheistic/animistic religions can be rightfully called Pagan. I think this is bunk since it was a smear term from Christians (and later Muslims) for anyone who held to their ancestral beliefs, not just Europeans. Hindus are also often referred to as "pagans" by Abrahamics, for example. I think anyone who follows their ancestral folkways can refer to themselves as such, especially if those traditions and beliefs were persecuted and suppressed. Regardless, I consider all who follow pluralistic, polytheistic, animistic paths to be part of a greater community due to a shared foundational worldview.Would you consider The HU to be Pagan metal? They're a Mongolian metal band who celebrate Mongolian strengths, loyalty to ancestors & tradition etc. I'm sure you've heard of them but I wanted an excuse to load up the video so I could post it here.
English subtitles on the video interface if you don't speak Mongolian.
They're pretty awesome. They're definitely a folk metal group. Some people only think revived European polytheistic/animistic religions can be rightfully called Pagan. I think this is bunk since it was a smear term from Christians (and later Muslims) for anyone who held to their ancestral beliefs, not just Europeans. Hindus are also often referred to as "pagans" by Abrahamics, for example. I think anyone who follows their ancestral folkways can refer to themselves as such, especially if those traditions and beliefs were persecuted and suppressed. Regardless, I consider all who follow pluralistic, polytheistic, animistic paths to be part of a greater community due to a shared foundational worldview.