Parents call police on teacher over LGBT book.

[We Never Know]

So you agree that accomodations shouldn't be made for parents with irrational and unjustified demands?

My post is pretty clear and doesn't need any further explanation

"Don't cater to any of them... gay, straight, trans, racist, etc"

Take from it what you will.

 

[SomeRandom]

There is a classic YouTube video out there were a pastor does that. He starts out arguing against gay marriage and then breaks off saying that he got his argument from the wrong decade. When people were debating mixed marriages in the 1960's they did use those same arguments. He showed how biased people were today by referring to bias in the past.

Omg I remember that!!!
I’ve even used it on occasion to show someone why I thought they were using racist rhetoric during my country’s Same Sex Marriage Debate.
It did seem to work to an extent.

Some of the atheist creators I watched back in the day would cite that very video in order to explain to their (presumably very young) audience which debate tactics were being used and how they were similar or even the same.

 

[We Never Know]

Omg I remember that!!!
I’ve even used it on occasion to show someone why I thought they were using racist rhetoric during my country’s Same Sex Marriage Debate.
It did seem to work to an extent.

Some of the atheist creators I watched back in the day would cite that very video in order to explain to their (presumably very young) audience which debate tactics were being used and how they were similar or even the same.

"Some of the atheist creators"

What are atheist creators?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Omg I remember that!!!
I’ve even used it on occasion to show someone why I thought they were using racist rhetoric during my country’s Same Sex Marriage Debate.
It did seem to work to an extent.

Some of the atheist creators I watched back in the day would cite that very video in order to explain to their (presumably very young) audience which debate tactics were being used and how they were similar or even the same.

I am rather disappointed that I could not find it. You could feel the right wing support for the man building and then in just a sentence or two turned it totally around.

 

[SomeRandom]

"Some of the atheist creators"

What are atheist creators?

YouTube video creators who create atheist content.
Or at least content relevant to atheism.

That “sphere” underwent a rather……interesting evolution over the years though

 

[SomeRandom]

I am rather disappointed that I could not find it. You could feel the right wing support for the man building and then in just a sentence or two turned it totally around.

Lol I remember the audience nodding along until the punchline, as it were. Kind of stunned silence and a “are we the baddies” moment lmao!

 

[We Never Know]

YouTube video creators who create atheist content.
Or at least content relevant to atheism.

That “sphere” underwent a rather……interesting evolution over the years though

Informative frube

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Bs.

BS. Really? Did @Father Heathen not say "What if some parents were racist " and did you not respond, "so everyone is now somehow racist? Why don't you say right out they are all homophobic?"

Calling ME a liar doesn't turn your lies into truth. And I make the same comment to you @Audie, since you expressed your approval of calling me a liar.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Well, Communists and Marxists did come to hate the fascists.

I am neither, and I still don't agree with the fascists.

 

[Yerda]

It depends on what was being taught.

I see. It seemed from your post you recommended reporting the teacher to the police in this instance.

 

[Twilight Hue]

BS. Really? Did @Father Heathen not say "What if some parents were racist " and did you not respond, "so everyone is now somehow racist? Why don't you say right out they are all homophobic?"

Calling ME a liar doesn't turn your lies into truth. And I make the same comment to you @Audie, since you expressed your approval of calling me a liar.

OK, amend it to some. It's still an irrelevant comparison.

 

[Twilight Hue]

How is it "bs"? Anyone here can simply read what my post said to verify.

It's an unrelated comparison.

 

[wellwisher]

I think that junior high kids, on the verge of puberty, need a certain education of their developing sexuality.

After all, they have the internet; they're going to see things, and they're going to have questions about themselves and about the world. Where would you prefer they go to find the answers to those questions? Deeper into the Internet into God-knows-what, or a more academic setting?

Academics, especially for younger students is all about memorize and repeat, with grades on the line. If you do not agree, and demonstrate that on a test, you can get a worse grade, thereby making it easier to program even smart students. The smart students compete for grades to get into good colleges. If a Liberal teacher wanted to teach revisionist history, the young student will need to learn; memorize, to get good grades. If a teacher is pushing a subject with questionable content, what do you think a student needs to do to get an A? If they critique against the bias of the teacher, they may be sent to the office, since this opinion can impact how the rest of the students will react and behave. Even Liberal college teachers and professors are afraid of descent from their one sided propaganda. This is not teaching critical thinking and openness to diversity of opinion, but indoctrination.

Sex education used to be something children would learn on their own or from their parents, when they become curious. There is plenty of sources in the young people's underground; kind older siblings of some students. Kids pick up computer hack tricks and game cheat codes from the young people's underground. They may even get beer or wine, The young people are often the first to come up with new things, with this a one stop shopping place, not based on a test with grades. It is a place to find tools for all the new adolescent choices as they appear. This young people underground is useful since the young people will be the leaders of tomorrow, and need to become more self reliant, since they will not always have mommy or teachers holding their hand, spoon feeding them.

As a way to put the shoe on the other foot, so Liberals can learn, guns are considered a problem by the Left. Say the political Right started to push for gun education in schools as a way to lower gun violence. Knowledge is important, right? This is why we teach sex eduction, right?

This gun course work will teach about different type of guns, gun safety, proper gun usage with lab learning using real guns and live ammo, as well as proper gun maintenance. These courses will have grades and be taught by teachers who know about guns, based on their first hand experiences and skills; best gun teachers like former navy seals. Will the Left agree that this will solve the problem? Or do you think an enthusiastic teacher attaching a test to learning will make it worse? Do you think parents in Liberal cities will allow this to happen?

The Durham report that just came out. It showed how we have a two tier injustice system in the USA. When there are two sides to a political topic, the Big Brother injustice system and allied teachers union, will always have a bias for tails, over using the head; become linear like a horny dog.

 

[Father Heathen]

OK, amend it to some. It's still an irrelevant comparison.

Let's get that brain processing. It might hurt a bit due to atrophy, but please bare with us.

You suggested that curriculum should be altered to appease homophobic parents. If so, then why shouldn't similar concessions be made for racist parents?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Let's get that brain processing. It might hurt a bit due to atrophy, but please bare with us.

You suggested that curriculum should be altered to appease homophobic parents. If so, then why shouldn't similar concessions be made for racist parents?

I regard this book as fluff. Not a part of a school curriculum.

Curriculum should be determined by the school board. If parents don't want something for their children then the curriculum should reflect that.

 

[Father Heathen]

I regard this as fluff. Not a curriculum.

And so, predictably, you've dodged the question. How you choose to regard it is a personal problem and otherwise irrelevant.

 

[Twilight Hue]

And so, predictably, you've dodged the question. How you choose to regard it is a personal problem and otherwise irrelevant.

Refer to post 2

Parents call police on teacher over LGBT book.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/parents-file-police-report-teacher-offers-lgbtq-themed-book-middle-sch-rcna84629 What can we do as a country to reign in this rightwing redneck rampage against liberty, rights, equality, justice, science, education, etc.? It's a serious problem that will...

www.religiousforums.com

Most people really don't care about it.

 

[Father Heathen]

Refer to post 2

Parents call police on teacher over LGBT book.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/parents-file-police-report-teacher-offers-lgbtq-themed-book-middle-sch-rcna84629 What can we do as a country to reign in this rightwing redneck rampage against liberty, rights, equality, justice, science, education, etc.? It's a serious problem that will...

www.religiousforums.com

Most people really don't care about it.

Because children aren't important as plastic bags, am I right?

 

[TLK Valentine]

When it comes to banning books, both the left and the right are guilty.

True -- and I'm against it no matter who does it -- are you?

Today, it's the Right -- if the Left starts up tomorrow, I'll still be against the practice on general principle, not partisan politics.

 

[kadzbiz]

Most people really don't care about it.

How do you know?