Pastor alarmed after Trump-loving congregants deride Jesus' teachings as 'weak'

[Father Heathen]

And it is the socialist policy that makes people downtrodden.

That's funny, because America is far from a socialist country, yet the gap between the rich and poor continues to grow, and the cost of living is far outpacing wages and salaries. Also, out of all of the developed first world countries, only our healthcare system is a privatized, predatory racket that drives people either into debt or into the grave. Not even the conservatives of other countries want it.

Again, conservative ideology is antithetical to the teachings and examples of Christ, so you must renounce either one or the other. Which is it going to be? I'll pray for you.

 

[Father Heathen]

I don't argue with Jesus.

It's not too late to ask for forgiveness.

 

[Father Heathen]

For whatever its worth, I find the topic interesting, and I'm glad the thread was started. It's just too bad that we aren't seeing better responses from Christians.

That's because immorality only matters to them when it's committed by those they consider their enemies.

 

[Muffled]

To **** on the Constitution makes them special.

I believe that is what Democrats ae tryiing to do. Change the constitutional interpretations to fit their wicked agenda.

 

[Muffled]

Trump helps anyone morally?
I don't think so.
In particular, his urging violence, & flouting the Constitution for personal gain are most immoral.

I prefer that to the riots and anti police actions of the Democrats. I am not aware of anything of the latter taking place.

 

[Muffled]

Thread sounds like an Onion headline.

On that note, I'm not convinced that America's right wing Christians have even a passing familiarity with the gospels.

I believe you have now met one.

 

[Revoltingest]

I believe that is what Democrats ae tryiing to do. Change the constitutional interpretations to fit their wicked agenda.

Democrats aren't big fans of the Constitution
either....except when it suits them. But MAGAs
differ in a highly significant way, ie, they're OK
with Trump trying to stage a coup.
There's nothing more unconstitutional than
to overthrow the federal government.

 

[Viker]

And it is the socialist policy that makes people downtrodden. In a way socialism is very clever system, it makes everyone poor, except the leaders and their friends and then gets more power and money by promising better times.

Wow. Sounds exactly like capitalism. I guess there's no significant difference.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

I believe that is what Democrats ae tryiing to do. Change the constitutional interpretations to fit their wicked agenda.

The Democrats are defending Americanism from the Republicans and their assault on democracy, the rule of law, egalitarianism, and church-state separation. You've misidentified your enemy and support them as you are now - a sort of mass Stockholm Syndrome that affects about half of the voters.

In most western systems "fraction" means about half of what you get. I think it is evil and essentially slavery.

So you've said, but you're not a slave in any society in which you are free to leave it. You are invited to participate in the social contract, but if you do, you incur obligations such as paying taxes. That's part of the contract. Everybody who can has to pay to play. You are free to break it at any time without cause, but you may not break the law and you probably won't be allowed to walk the streets if you violate tax law.

So choose one: play by the rules of the social contract include obeying the law or leave the society and live abroad or in a cell. You could also choose suicide I suppose.

By what I see, they made everything worse.

No, you didn't see that. What you saw if you looked open-mindedly was that virtually all progress and aid came from governments, many of which funded the development and free distribution of the vaccines and disseminated personal protective equipment and viral testing kits at no charge while supporting individuals and businesses through a significant economic downturn.

I think people should be free.

You are. You are free to play by the rules of the social contract include obeying the law or leave the society and live abroad, in a cell, or in the ground.

I have a problem, if you force others to pay.

Then you know what to do about that. Suck it up and pay anyway, emigrate to a place with no taxes such as a private tropical island, shed this mortal coil, or go to prison.

That's all the freedom you need or get. Having multiple options is what freedom is. Freedom's just another word for something else to choose. What isn't an option is to refuse to pay and walk free among us and benefitting from the commonwealth. That's more freedom than you deserve.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

People seem to be loyal to the group they join
more than to ideals that first inspired them to join.

Going with the flow is easy and comforting. Ideals can be troublesome to hold to in a world that is less than ideal.

 

[Revoltingest]

I prefer that to the riots and anti police actions of the Democrats. I am not aware of anything of the latter taking place.

We don't have to choose between the alternatives
of a treasonous President & allowing riots.
Trump's failed coup stands alone as something
worthy of prosecution & prison.

As for being "anti police", I find that Democrats
are far too pro police, with their giving them
unconstitutional power (eg, civil forfeiture abuse),
& failure to pursue meaningful reform.

 

[Revoltingest]

Going with the flow is easy and comforting. Ideals can be troublesome to hold to in a world that is less than ideal.

It strikes me as something different from "going with the flow".
It's emotional attachment to the tribe & leaders.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

It strikes me as something different from "going with the flow".
It's emotional attachment to the tribe & leaders.

Emotions are a large part of the brain's communication to us of what's likely to be good for us. It's biochemical, honed by evolution. So the brain doesn't say (in words), "this is a strong leader, and there is safety in being with his tribe." Rather it simply registers comfort in joining and going along.

 

[Revoltingest]

Emotions are a large part of the brain's communication to us of what's likely to be good for us. It's biochemical, honed by evolution. So the brain doesn't say (in words), "this is a strong leader, and there is safety in being with his tribe." Rather it simply registers comfort in joining and going along.

OK.

 

[Viker]

I believe that is what Democrats ae tryiing to do. Change the constitutional interpretations to fit their wicked agenda.

Certain other party members are guilty of that too.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I prefer that to the riots and anti police actions of the Democrats. I am not aware of anything of the latter taking place.

January 6th. He's just been indicted for his actions pertaining to the events of that day.

 

[Viker]

I prefer that to the riots and anti police actions of the Democrats. I am not aware of anything of the latter taking place.

Living under a rock, in a cave, in the middle of nowhere?

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I prefer that to the riots and anti police actions of the Democrats. I am not aware of anything of the latter taking place.

You mean like Jan 6?

 

[Yerda]

I believe you have now met one.

Nice to meet you.

 

[Father Heathen]

I believe that is what Democrats ae tryiing to do. Change the constitutional interpretations to fit their wicked agenda.

Says the people who constantly try to sidestep the establishment clause of the first amendment.