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Pastor alarmed after Trump-loving congregants deride Jesus' teachings as 'weak'

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Sorry, I don't see how they would be in contradiction with conservative standards.
Jesus put the welfare of people well ahead of money, such as when he said: "Render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's...". Conservatives that are like Trump "worship" money, and they refuse to follow Jesus' Parable of the Sheep & Goats and much of what's in the Sermon On the Mount.
 

SomeRandom

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Not surprising considering that the teachings and examples of Christ are antithetical to conservative ideology. If he were to return today, the right would reject him for being "woke" and "socialist".
Ngl, this has been popping up on my (admittedly filthy leftist) feeds all week lol

Reminds me of they very old memes from back in the day

Jesus: Do unto others, as you would have done yourself. Love and forgive others as I have loved and forgiven you
Followers: But what if they’re gay or worship other gods?
Jesus: Did I stutter?

Guess now it’s “but what if they’re woke?”
 

SomeRandom

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Jesus put the welfare of people well ahead of money, such as when he said: "Render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's...". Conservatives that are like Trump "worship" money, and they refuse to follow Jesus' Parable of the Sheep & Goats and much of what's in the Sermon On the Mount.
Well it is easier to get a camel through the eye of the needle than it is for a rich man to get into heaven. Right?
 

We Never Know

No Slack
They wave the American flag while ****ting on everything it stands for. They loudly profess their faith while ****ting on everything Christ stood for. Of course they're lousy examples of the things they identify as.
"They wave the American flag while ****ting on everything it stands for"

Reminds me of flag burners
 

SomeRandom

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SomeRandom

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I'm sure it is. Its one of the many things that fall under the first that people don't agree with.
So, again forgive me as I’m not American so could be missing something. Is the term “flag burners” used in a derogatory manner?
I would have assumed that it was neutral at worst, since they are presumably bravely expressing their first amendment rights?

Sorry I may have misunderstood you. Possibly?
 

We Never Know

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So, again forgive me as I’m not American so could be missing something. Is the term “flag burners” used in a derogatory manner?
I would have assumed that it was neutral at worst, since they are presumably bravely expressing their first amendment rights?

Sorry I may have misunderstood you. Possibly?
If you think flag burners is an derogatory manner, then you would have a ball with homophobe, transphobe, bigot, etc etc. Right?
 

SomeRandom

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If you think flag burners is an derogatory manner, then you would have a ball with homophobe, transphobe, bigot, etc etc. Right?
I thought your post was deriding said flag burners with your comment.
That’s where I think the miscommunication arose.
I apologise if I was mistaken

Like I said, I’m not American and I don’t know what is considered derogatory or not.
Here the C word is used as both a badge of honour said among close friends and an unspeakable insult, depending on the context. So language may be slightly elusive for me at times lol
 

We Never Know

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I thought your post was deriding said flag burners with your comment.
That’s where I think the miscommunication arose.
I apologise if I was mistaken

Like I said, I’m not American and I don’t know what is considered derogatory or not.
Here the C word is used as both a badge of honour said among close friends and an unspeakable insult, depending on the context. So language may be slightly elusive for me at times lol
I don't care for flag burners. I don't care for bigots. Both are terms to describe people same as homophobe, transphobe, etc.
 

Subduction Zone

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So, again forgive me as I’m not American so could be missing something. Is the term “flag burners” used in a derogatory manner?
I would have assumed that it was neutral at worst, since they are presumably bravely expressing their first amendment rights?

Sorry I may have misunderstood you. Possibly?
No, I do not think that you are the one that is confused. Some people do not understand how flag burning can be a brave and even patriotic event.
 

SomeRandom

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I don't care for flag burners. I don't care for bigots. Both are terms to describe people same as homophobe, transphobe, etc.
Why not?
Burning the flag could be seen a noble patrotic act in certain circumstances. A move that is done out of a highly symbolic protest. Like those anti war protests from back in the day, right?

I thought that’s what Americans highly valued? Free speech
Going against government control by making a very bold statement
I mean, isn’t it?

It could also just be a thing done out of convenience I suppose lol
 

We Never Know

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I thought your post was deriding said flag burners with your comment.
That’s where I think the miscommunication arose.
I apologise if I was mistaken

Like I said, I’m not American and I don’t know what is considered derogatory or not.
Here the C word is used as both a badge of honour said among close friends and an unspeakable insult, depending on the context. So language may be slightly elusive for me at times lol
Bob calls Steve a flag burner
Kenny calls Bill a homophobe
Mary calls Charlie a transphobe
Karen calls Joe a bigot

Are all used in a derogatory manner?
 

We Never Know

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Why not?
Burning the flag could be seen a noble patrotic act in certain circumstances. A move that is done out of a highly symbolic protest. Like those anti war protests from back in the day, right?

I thought that’s what Americans highly valued? Free speech
Going against government control by making a very bold statement
I mean, isn’t it?

It could also just be a thing done out of convenience I suppose lol

"Burning the flag could be seen a noble patrotic"

Define patrotic.

And not by some. Some see it as a disgrace
 

SomeRandom

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Bob calls Steve a flag burner
Kenny calls Bill a homophobe
Mary calls Charlie a transphobe
Karen calls Joe a bigot

Are all used in a derogatory manner?
Well the last three I can understand why the underlying context would be one of derision. Or rather the message conveyed. That of someone with hate and something negative

Flag burning?
Again maybe that’s just an American thing but I could care less if someone burns their national flag.
It’s just a flag. And indeed flag burning has long been associated with symbolic protests of one’s government. It is a known protest move in multiple countries, usually done in disgust of awful acts committed by said government. So I don’t really put it in the same category, truth be told :shrug:

Maybe it’s more of an American thing?
 

We Never Know

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Well the last three I can understand why the underlying context would be one of derision. Or rather the message conveyed. That of someone with hate and something negative

Flag burning?
Again maybe that’s just an American thing but I could care less if someone burns their national flag.
It’s just a flag. And indeed flag burning has long been associated with symbolic protests of one’s government. It is a known protest move in multiple countries, usually done in disgust of awful acts committed by said government. So I don’t really put it in the same category, truth be told :shrug:

Maybe it’s more of an American thing?
I wore that flag on my right sleeve for 21 years.
Evidently it means more to me than it does others.
 
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