Paul's view of women

[BTROD]

Its only a story created to control the masses! I'd take Dr Ray's word over yours Shuttlecraft!

there's more.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwUZOZN-9dc

Jesus is a fictional character in a 'religious' soap opera!

 

[Shuttlecraft]

..Its only a story created to control the masses!

Nah mate, true Christians don't do "control", it's consp-theory squashing time again..-

"Be shepherds of God’s flock that is under your care, watching over them—not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not pursuing dishonest gain, but eager to serve; not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:2-3)

 

[Shuttlecraft]

..Jesus is a fictional character in a 'religious' soap opera!

Ah soaps, I can just picture it..-

JESUS- "Well mum, I'm off to start saving the world!"
MARY- "Don't talk rot, who do you think you are? Now sit down like a good boy, your dinner's nearly ready"
JESUS- "Sorry I'm not hungry, give it to the cat, I gotta go now" (leaves the house)
MARY- "Quick, somebody grab him, he's gone nutty!"

"Jesus's family and friends tried to take charge of him, saying he's out of his mind" (Mark 3:21)

 

[Ingledsva]

What answer?
Look darling, maybe if you told us what your religion and age is, your posts would carry more weight. At the moment you might just be a cheeky kid for all we know, so we can't really take you seriously.
Same goes for all the other shrinking violets in the forum who've got blank profiles, come out from under the bed and tell us who and what you are..

Here's me swaggering along Plymouth seafront, you don't see me hiding under no bed..

It is quite funny that you say crap like this when you can't rebut a rebuttal.

As others have already told you, - when you said the same things to them, -

age doesn't matter in a debate - especially when one is right.



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[outhouse]

It is quite funny that you say crap like this when you can't rebut a rebuttal.

As others have already told you, - when you said the same things to them, -

age doesn't matter in a debate - especially when one is right.



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Im surprised you gave him such a dignified answer, for such an ignorant question.


Its easy with no education to BLINDLY follow faith

 

[outhouse]

Its only a story created to control the masses! I'd take Dr Ray's word over yours Shuttlecraft!

Your vid is about by a known quack who carries no credibility what so ever.

While shuttle does not know what is going on, either do you.

 

[outhouse]

fits in nicely

Ray Hagins: The False Teachings of The Apostle Paul

More garbage from a quack .

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Your vid is about by a known quack who carries no credibility what so ever.

While shuttle does not know what is going on, either do you.

Hagins is a racist quack, but Richard Carrier isn't.

 

[Ingledsva]

Its only a story created to control the masses! I'd take Dr Ray's word over yours Shuttlecraft!

there's more.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwUZOZN-9dc

Jesus is a fictional character in a 'religious' soap opera!

Thanks, that was very interesting. Fits nicely with the other idea, that "Saul/Paul" the assassin of Christians, took over the religion and changed it.

I got a good laugh when it was talking about 2 Cor 12:16 where "Paul" says -

16 But be that as it may, I did not burden you myself; nevertheless, CRAFTY FELLOW THAT I AM, I TOOK YOU IN BY DECEIT.


Galatians 1:11-12 were also interesting, in that "Saul/Paul" the assassin, was after Jesus was dead, and had already given his message to his actual apostles. Saul/Paul TELLS US - HE DID NOT GET HIS MESSAGE FROM ANY MAN! Hummm!

11. For I would have you know, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me, IS NOT ACCORDING TO MAN.

12. FOR I NEITHER RECEIVED IT FROM MAN, NOR WAS I TAUGHT IT, but through a revelation of Jesus Christ.


No wonder other apostles were arguing with what he said.


You folks should give it a listen. Very entertaining, though I didn't agree with everything he said.



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[Ingledsva]

Hagins is a racist quack, but Richard Carrier isn't.

Indeed, however, he points out some very interesting things from the Bible.


His racism, and ideas about homosexuals, where the things I did not agree with.


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[outhouse]

Hagins is a racist quack, but Richard Carrier isn't.

Yes Carrier is


What are you talking about I have never endorsed him other then give him a little respect for actually trying to provide a replacement hypothesis for the evidence we have about a historical Jesus, of which I do not agree. I follow a historical Jesus


Could you put me back on ignore?

 

[Shuttlecraft]

.."Saul/Paul" the assassin of Christians, took over the religion and changed it...

Stop making up that fantasy stuff or it's the naughty step for you..
NOWHERE does the Bible say Saul/Paul killed anybody!
And he never changed Christianity, because he said straight out-
"Follow Christ, not me, I wasn't crucified for you" (1 Cor 1:12/13)

 

[fantome profane]

Stop making up that fantasy stuff or it's the naughty step for you..
NOWHERE does the Bible say Saul/Paul killed anybody!
And he never changed Christianity, because he said straight out-
"Follow Christ, not me, I wasn't crucified for you" (1 Cor 1:12/13)

Speaking of 1 Cor, I was hoping you would be so kind as to answer some questions for me. I am interested in hearing your opinion.



First Corinthians is an epistle that claims authorship by Paul. Was this really written by Paul? Yes or No?

Second Corinthians is an epistle that claims authorship by Paul. Was this really written by Paul? Yes or No?

Third Corinthians is an epistle that claims authorship by Paul. Was this really written by Paul? Yes or No?




Thank you for your responses.

 

[Shuttlecraft]

First Corinthians is an epistle that claims authorship by Paul. Was this really written by Paul? Yes or No?
Second Corinthians is an epistle that claims authorship by Paul. Was this really written by Paul? Yes or No?
Third Corinthians is an epistle that claims authorship by Paul. Was this really written by Paul? Yes or No?

Well,
1 Cor and 2 Cor begin with-
"Paul...to the church of God which is at Corinth.."
so that's clear enough, unless some people think Mary Poppins wrote them..

But 3 Cor's authorship was a grey area which is why it was wisely left out of the Bible, glad to see they were on the ball..

 

[fantome profane]

But 3 Cor's authorship was a grey area which is why it was wisely left out of the Bible, glad to see they were on the ball..

But the author claims to be the apostle Paul.

Why on earth should anybody want to write something and then try to pass it off as Paul's work?
MOTIVE is always where a lot of arguments fall flat..

 

[sojourner]

But the author claims to be the apostle Paul.

Why on earth should anybody want to write something and then try to pass it off as Paul's work?
MOTIVE is always where a lot of arguments fall flat..

Pseudonymy was common then. Perhaps it was a student of Paul's, or someone who ascribed to his teachings. Back then, it was considered to be a form of flattery.

 

[Alt Thinker]

Well,
1 Cor and 2 Cor begin with-
"Paul...to the church of God which is at Corinth.."
so that's clear enough, unless some people think Mary Poppins wrote them..

But 3 Cor's authorship was a grey area which is why it was wisely left out of the Bible, glad to see they were on the ball..

Paul, a prisoner of Jesus Christ, unto the brethren which are in Corinth, greeting.

http://www.christian-history.org/3r... The Third Epistle of Paul to the Corinthians

What makes it a grey area? Scholarship?

 

[Shuttlecraft]

Guys, guys, the early church leaders realised 3 Cor was a fake so they binned it, you should be GLAD that it couldn't get under their radar..

" Let men know that in Asia the presbyter who compiled that document, thinking to add of his own to Paul’s reputation, was found out, and though he professed he had done it for love of Paul, was deposed from his position"

Why was St Paul’s third letter to the Corinthians prohibited from submission to the Bible by Bishop Athanasius? | Emmaus At Twilight

 

[fantome profane]

Guys, guys, the early church leaders realised 3 Cor was a fake so they binned it, you should be GLAD that it couldn't get under their radar..

But you are not answering my question. Which I hope you recognize was actually your question. These are your words.

"Why on earth should anybody want to write something and then try to pass it off as Paul's work?"


Please answer the question.

 

[Shuttlecraft]

But you are not answering my question. Which I hope you recognize was actually your question. These are your words.
"Why on earth should anybody want to write something and then try to pass it off as Paul's work?"..

It's obvious, somebody was hoping to cash in on Paul's good name by pretending to be him!
I was giving you the opportunity to acquaint us with some other startling new theory of your own that we might have overlooked..