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People who can't wear masks

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Our virginia government mentioned young children and those who have respiratory problems do not need to wear masks. However, all of our businesses here do not let people in if they have allergies, lung problems, cough, and so forth. The idea is that businesses don't know each costumer's health so they have to turn everyone with these illnesses away.

It kinda bothers me for these people who can't go to stores and don't "all of the sudden" have people to go for them. Most of the people here where I live are elderly and those with oxygen tanks can't go in the store without a mask. I don't have lung illness but I know my mother does. She has asthma. Luckily, her asthma isn't as worse but wearing a mask doesn't make things better.

I know with epilepsy, I can't go through medal detectors because I have a neuro-pacemaker for seizures. So, with government buildings we're supposed to bring our doctor's note or a card (we have a card with our medical device info on it) to present to the officer. They can't do that for these conditions. I don't know if businesses would adhere to it without some temporary law.

Anyway. Had to get this out. But there can't be a doctor's note or anything for these businesses. I mean, I came from the bank couple days ago and they said they had to turn people away with all the symptoms I mentioned above. So, they can only go to ATM machines.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Similar situation here, the majority of the population are elderly (many in their 80s and 90s), some are infirm.

The mairie (local council), village store and us youngsters (im 50) laid on several initiatives to ensure they were well looked after

The local council have daily runs to clear their rubbish, do supermarket shopping, collect prescriptions (doctors on video call) and go to the pharmacy etc for them. The supermarket and pharmacy are some distance away in different towns.

The store owner takes phone orders, picks and delivers at no extra charge.

Anyone passing the home of an elderly or infirm person takes a look through a window, taps, waves etc to ensure they are OK and see if they are in need.

The easing of restrictions has eased the situation but its still in force

I see not having such a strong community as something of a problem
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Our virginia government mentioned young children and those who have respiratory problems do not need to wear masks. However, all of our businesses here do not let people in if they have allergies, lung problems, cough, and so forth. The idea is that businesses don't know each costumer's health so they have to turn everyone with these illnesses away.

It kinda bothers me for these people who can't go to stores and don't "all of the sudden" have people to go for them. Most of the people here where I live are elderly and those with oxygen tanks can't go in the store without a mask. I don't have lung illness but I know my mother does. She has asthma. Luckily, her asthma isn't as worse but wearing a mask doesn't make things better.

I know with epilepsy, I can't go through medal detectors because I have a neuro-pacemaker for seizures. So, with government buildings we're supposed to bring our doctor's note or a card (we have a card with our medical device info on it) to present to the officer. They can't do that for these conditions. I don't know if businesses would adhere to it without some temporary law.

Anyway. Had to get this out. But there can't be a doctor's note or anything for these businesses. I mean, I came from the bank couple days ago and they said they had to turn people away with all the symptoms I mentioned above. So, they can only go to ATM machines.

Here, business requires its employees to wear masks. They ask their customers to keep their social distance but there is no requirement for them to wear masks. Of course, we've had relatively few cases as well.
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
There is a gentleman I saw interviewed in the USA that cannot wear a mask either due to PTSD. He was staying in the house as much as possible but was concerned about how he would get to a store or a doctors appointment. Makes me wonder about folks in NYS who have been given the right by the state to refuse service to those not wearing a mask. Don't get me wrong, I wear a mask whenever I go out, and I think it is a good idea. But what do you do about special cases where they simply cannot wear a mask
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Our virginia government mentioned young children and those who have respiratory problems do not need to wear masks. However, all of our businesses here do not let people in if they have allergies, lung problems, cough, and so forth. The idea is that businesses don't know each costumer's health so they have to turn everyone with these illnesses away.

It kinda bothers me for these people who can't go to stores and don't "all of the sudden" have people to go for them. Most of the people here where I live are elderly and those with oxygen tanks can't go in the store without a mask. I don't have lung illness but I know my mother does. She has asthma. Luckily, her asthma isn't as worse but wearing a mask doesn't make things better.

I know with epilepsy, I can't go through medal detectors because I have a neuro-pacemaker for seizures. So, with government buildings we're supposed to bring our doctor's note or a card (we have a card with our medical device info on it) to present to the officer. They can't do that for these conditions. I don't know if businesses would adhere to it without some temporary law.

Anyway. Had to get this out. But there can't be a doctor's note or anything for these businesses. I mean, I came from the bank couple days ago and they said they had to turn people away with all the symptoms I mentioned above. So, they can only go to ATM machines.
While I can certainly feel the pain for all that, the virus itself does not. It's going to infect no matter how you personally may feel about it or how unfair it may seem.

Still, I can't help but think there should be some sort of amicable solution for a person who cannot wear a mask get equal access.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Similar situation here, the majority of the population are elderly (many in their 80s and 90s), some are infirm.

The mairie (local council), village store and us youngsters (im 50) laid on several initiatives to ensure they were well looked after

The local council have daily runs to clear their rubbish, do supermarket shopping, collect prescriptions (doctors on video call) and go to the pharmacy etc for them. The supermarket and pharmacy are some distance away in different towns.

The store owner takes phone orders, picks and delivers at no extra charge.

Anyone passing the home of an elderly or infirm person takes a look through a window, taps, waves etc to ensure they are OK and see if they are in need.

The easing of restrictions has eased the situation but its still in force

I see not having such a strong community as something of a problem

That's beautiful. The grocery stores and mall lets elderly come in a couple hours before the store opens to shop. The church comes here where I live but I haven't seen them lately. Which is weird because this would be the perfect time to visit the elderly. There used to be a good catholic population here so they had Mass every Sunday until the priest decided not many people attend compared to other places. So, the religious get support from Wednesday rosary meetings. Outside of that, most people have family come by and help but there are quite a few that don't have family or family doesn't want to visit them for many reasons.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
While I can certainly feel the pain for all that, the virus itself does not. It's going to infect no matter how you personally may feel about it or how unfair it may seem.

Still, I can't help but think there should be some sort of amicable solution for a person who cannot wear a mask get equal access.

The virus isn't a plague. So, it would be sad to see someone at high risk of the disease but may die more from the illness they already have than the virus itself. Without going to the stores, what can they do?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Churches in France closed (without argument) when the lockdown began. And anyway, because of falling congregations the priest is not local and rides his bike from church to church to church to church on sundays. The local church reopened a week ago in line with the lifting of restrictions.

Churches here don't really get involved with the day to day lives of people. Its more the job of the mairie
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
There is a gentleman I saw interviewed in the USA that cannot wear a mask either due to PTSD. He was staying in the house as much as possible but was concerned about how he would get to a store or a doctors appointment. Makes me wonder about folks in NYS who have been given the right by the state to refuse service to those not wearing a mask. Don't get me wrong, I wear a mask whenever I go out, and I think it is a good idea. But what do you do about special cases where they simply cannot wear a mask

Yeah. I wear a mask where I have to since I don't go many places other than the store and gas station for water before a jog. Everywhere else is closed. I do kinda get businesses since they can't judge who has a "real" condition and who doesn't. Maybe our governor needs to make more emphasis on what he said about some not needing to cover their face. He did a public question and answer on twitter couple months ago I found out. I guess it's worth a shot if he does it again.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Here, business requires its employees to wear masks. They ask their customers to keep their social distance but there is no requirement for them to wear masks. Of course, we've had relatively few cases as well.

We had a good amount of cases. They only "opened" a minor part of Virginia. A lot of people report symptoms but not sure if it's actually the virus or not since there is more to diagnosing than overlapping symptoms.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
We had a good amount of cases. They only "opened" a minor part of Virginia. A lot of people report symptoms but not sure if it's actually the virus or not since there is more to diagnosing than overlapping symptoms.

My wife as a nurse gets checked every two weeks. I figure if either of us gets it, we will both have it.

I was just thinking about what would happen if she tested positive. We'd have to quarantine the whole house. I've 9 people staying with us atm. There's been reports of a few people returning to work even after being notified of having Covid-19.:(
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
My wife as a nurse gets checked every two weeks. I figure if either of us gets it, we will both have it.

I was just thinking about what would happen if she tested positive. We'd have to quarantine the whole house. I've 9 people staying with us atm. There's been reports of a few people returning to work even after being notified of having Covid-19.:(


I guess it depends on knowing your body. For example, sometimes I have have nervous ticks or so have you while not thinking its a seizure. It shocks me out of the blue. Since it's not something I experienced before, I go the emergency room (depending) or call my doctor the next day. Sometimes I have nervous ticks and forget that there are other nerve disorders besides seizures since that's all I know of with the nerves is seizures.

So, if someone already has a hard time breathing or knows they have sneezing symptoms or so have you, they would be the best to know if there is something out of the usual they need to go to the doctor's for. A lot of people crowded at COVID testing centers and probably most of them didn't have unusual symptoms that would bring them there for a check up (like you would any doctor or ER etc). So, if someone like me kept going to the emergency room every time I had a nervous tick, that's one less bed for someone who actually needs it. I think about that a lot. I never had shortness of breath as part of an illness, so if I knew I had that and other symptoms, of course I'd get checked out. Of course better safe than sorry, but I wish if that be the case, people would do that for other illnesses they may have but asymptomatic for as well.

A lot of people probably been healthy their whole life and may get a little unnerved when they find a symptom or two (rather than a combination thereof) and diagnosis themselves before being formally diagnosed. But I'm sure the COVID deaths were a combination of things. Most illnesses if not all that cause death isn't just one illness but a combination of illnesses that domino each other.

Every time I think of this, it gets me back to Men in Black: The person is smart, people are dumb, panicky, and you know it.

I'm over simplifying my thoughts, but in general, I wish there was a way people who can't wear masks can shop, go the bank, etc. Not everyone is tech savy, and not everyone uses Amazon.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
My wife has asthma and has trouble with thick masks. We found that a thin one worked for her. That's not a solution for everyone but it can be for some.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
My wife has asthma and has trouble with thick masks. We found that a thin one worked for her. That's not a solution for everyone but it can be for some.

I think I probably get a thin one. I have a cotton one but I can't breathe threw it and I talk so low no one can hear me. So, I'm basically half wearing the mask to interact.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Wow, I did not know they took it this serious in USA. I do remember a few weeks back, they (WHO etc) thought it was all useless, using masks etc.

I am well prepared though. Having a ffp2 mask (horrible to breathe; I tried it once. Poor doctors). I just bought thin masks (when travelling by bus, we must wear something starting from june; 1 big joke IMO, because even a woolen shawl is allowed). And I just bought a face shield.

But for now, I never use them, as we are not required when doing just shopping. And I have not heard of 1 person having corona, around here.
 
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