paarsurrey
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Percentage of danger the asteroid would have hit Earth, if not struck by Dart, please?
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Percentage of danger the asteroid would have hit Earth?
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As I understand it, it wasn't going to hit Earth but it was just a test to see if we could stop an asteroid if we spotted one coming to Earth.
If you haven't read this already, it will put the experiment into perspective:
Dimorphos: Nasa flies spacecraft into asteroid in direct hit - BBC News
0% it was a test to determine if it would be possible, if ever needed.
stvdv
Veteran Member
These experiments costing trillions of dollars, while many people already starve to death now.
So, I am not a fan of wasting resources this way, claiming they might save the planet one day, while not even capable to undestroy the "earth" from all the pollution due to industrialization
From the article:
"We're embarking on a new era of humankind, an era in which we potentially have the capability to protect ourselves from something like a dangerous hazardous asteroid impact. What an amazing thing; we've never had that capability before," she told reporters.
stvdv
Veteran Member
Why is this in “science and religion?”.
Hmm. I think society should focus a little bit on both: exterior threats and interior issues. I mean, what's the point in creating this great civilization where everyone is well sustained when an asteroid is well on its way to blow it all to smithereens and there's nothing we can do about it?
This is not a waste of money imo, it's things like military weapons/planes/drones that make me cringe about the wasted money.
stvdv
Veteran Member
IF more people pray more, I believe God protects against such things. Anyway, in thousands of years the earth is still not destroyed by an asteroid, BUT humans keep destroying earth and each other.
Their first focus should be "stop destructive exploitation", but that will not happen I think, much easier to do these Science projects
And indeed, war industry is a bad one
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Well ,does it belong to the Atheism (and its denominations) forum, if there is any, please? Right?
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I get the science part but where does religion come into it,just asking.
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Tinker Grey
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The Dart mission cost about $325 million: Bam! NASA spacecraft crashes into asteroid in defense test
Your estimate is off by 3 orders of magnitude.
This project was initiated in 2015: Double Asteroid Redirection Test - Wikipedia which, of course, was 7 years ago. For the sake of argument, let's grant that the $325 million was spent over 5 years.
The US military budget is around $770 billion per year (and I'm low-balling it): Military budget of the United States - Wikipedia
That's more than $2 billion PER DAY. The US military burns through 5 years of Dart project money MORE THAN SIX TIME EACH AND EVERY DAY.
You wanna save the world? Cut the military budget by just 1% (and, of course, designate that money for world-saving projects).
cladking
Well-Known Member
The "test" was unnecessary anyway since we already knew it would work. The asteroid was attracted to dart and accelerated toward it as dart accelerated at it. But these accelerations were miniscule compared to the initial velocity of dart.
My understanding is that there is still a very low probability we could see any danger in time to launch something. Until a few years ago most of the objects approaching earth were found by amateurs. I shouldn't be surprised in many still are. The closer something is to earth the bigger the nudge needed to have much effect.
stvdv
Veteran Member
Thank you for sharing the exact data
My number was the sum of all experiments over the years, just a very wild guess, but not so much off, seeing your numbers.
The US military is like crazy high. Humans are truly crazy to waste this much of our resources on earth
That's not really a sensible argument - as to - we should be spending more money here than there - given that the consequences of some scenarios are catastrophic for mankind and therefore should have a raised priority. Unless one had one's head buried in some appropriate 'good' book telling as to the future and simply relying on such.
Too big a gamble I would think, and so I'm grateful that scientists do take the very real threats to mankind seriously and conduct such experiments, particularly when they are reasonably safe. Just another marker as to science advancing in my view.
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And please explain the denominations of atheism - so intrigued.
stvdv
Veteran Member
Too big a gamble indeed...messing with the universe.That's not really a sensible argument - as to - we should be spending more money here than there - given that the consequences of some scenarios are catastrophic for mankind and therefore should have a raised priority. Unless one had one's head buried in some appropriate 'good' book telling as to the future and simply relying on such.
Too big a gamble I would think, and so I'm grateful that scientists do take the very real threats to mankind seriously and conduct such experiments, particularly when they are reasonably safe. Just another marker as to science advancing in my view.
IMHO:
They have proven they can pretty much control humanity by introducing covid fear, energy and food shortage fearmongering due to their own wars, but no chance they have changing the flow of the universe. Arrogance will bite them back, I am sure about that
And, I think that the chance that humanity will be destroyed by asteroids is much smaller than destruction by humans.
Also, in the past 10.000 years how many asteroids destroyed humanity?
Only relatively small asteroid make it to the earth so far occasionally. Of course, when it lands in New York or Delhi, there will be many deaths. And a huge asteroid never will be stopped by scientists
We do meddle with a perfect universe, which is in perfect balance, and minor deviations will be taken care of by the universal Laws of which Scientists have no clue.
Who knows the consequence of "nuking an asteroid"? Maybe, because of the "big bang", next year a huge asteroid, which would normally have just passed the earth, will hit the earth due to "nuking the small one" (like the anecdote "in Japan a butterfly flaps its wings causing a tornado in America")
Scientists have no clue about the universe, hence they play with fire. They tried for many years to influence the weather. Also creating thousands of viruses, and nukes, while not even capable to achieve peace on earth between humans. Now they fear terrorists laying their hands on nukes
They can't even control a tiny Covid virus, BUT they think they can influence the universe (asteroids).
All of this makes no sense to me. Just acting out of fear and superiority; good recipe for Big Trouble
Hence, I am still convinced it's not wise
Did you actually look at the details of this test - as in expecting a minor deviation of about 1% from its natural orbit? Hardly a test to raise so much angst - apart from the religious fraternity perhaps. You should be pleased that the scientists can measure these things so accurately and even on getting this object to the asteroids given the distance they are away. All the rest about other risks is just more whataboutism. You do know that not all the dangerous objects have been located yet? You and many others might place any trust in God to save us, but others not so inclined are likely to want to deal with threats in the normal way - not praying, for example - just as science tends to progress in all other areas.