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Personal Relationships with Others
- Thread starter Fool
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what we call ego.
Its most clearly played out by the extreme addict who has crashed, gotten god and now has a bullhorn on a street corner with signs button holing people It's a product of culture. Completely dysfunctional but a sober dysfunctional which is normal on spectrum.
What relationship?
And what do you mean by "practiced upon?" Do you mean like praying for someone?
PureX
Veteran Member
Ego. The ego dictates that they must be right, and anyone who does not agree with them must then be wrong. The ego also dictates that it is the responsibility of the righteous one (oneself) to "correct" the error of everyone else.
When people do not take control of their own egos, their egos take control of them. And they become toxic to others, because the ego is all about the 'self'. Protecting it, promoting it, and justifying it, no matter what.
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Thief
Rogue Theologian
forced?
I suspect God and heaven will take a look......when I stand from this soon to be carcass
They will (might) have some interest what stands from the dust (me)
I do not think they will force themselves upon my will
They will ask me to follow.....(YEAH!)
or they will leave me wherever I fell......(oh, oh)
Kelly of the Phoenix
Well-Known Member
No. Let God call whom He wants. However, "no" is an answer good enough for God, and as we were made in His image, it can be good enough for us too. If God's not talking to them, that's between them.
Yeah, it does seem to be the newbies doing this the most, doesn't it?
I mean, imagine being a newlywed and being so excited about it you are inviting the entire city to come have sex with your spouse because you enjoy having sex with your new spouse so much.
perfect. Besides bob dylan never has figured it out so how can we expect just average folks to get a handle it. Not easy stuff at all.
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No, because deity-beliefs are extremely personal and rarely if ever a good fit for any other people.
To a large extent, for that very reason.
It is too much to expect others to share of our own god-beliefs, but it is extremely tempting to hope that they might turn out that way if properly encouraged.
no like preying on someone to become this ism vs that ism vs any other ism.
forced conversion, or forcing one's belief onto the general public. a faction requiring its personal practices, holidays, forms of worship onto some other ism.
someone believing you got to do it in this form because it's this action.
example the belief that a bird is only one that flies and is black and white. no more birds are allowed to represent the true bird.
they believe penquins are unacceptable as a birds.
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@Fool , there is an element of practical need factoring in those situations.
To some extent, respect can only exist in the presence of mutual understanding. And that demands a modicum of common vocabulary and even common experiences, if not necessarily common values.
That is probably one reason why people so often make those demands and basically decide to pretend that other people can be made to share their beliefs. The pretense is wrong and destructive, but the achievement of a common language is very much useful. Even disagreements need some common ground of understanding.
People should be encouraged to understand other people's values and beliefs. The mistake is in expecting them to convert, be it due to that understanding or otherwise.
To some extent, respect can only exist in the presence of mutual understanding. And that demands a modicum of common vocabulary and even common experiences, if not necessarily common values.
That is probably one reason why people so often make those demands and basically decide to pretend that other people can be made to share their beliefs. The pretense is wrong and destructive, but the achievement of a common language is very much useful. Even disagreements need some common ground of understanding.
People should be encouraged to understand other people's values and beliefs. The mistake is in expecting them to convert, be it due to that understanding or otherwise.
Akivah
Well-Known Member
I can think of two major reasons
1) They think that those that don't have their beliefs are at risk and want to help them.
2) It bolsters their faith the more they can get others to agree with them.
Ah... so it was a loaded question you were going for. Gotcha.
not necessarily, no.
some folks are genuinely doing it because they are attempting to save another from what they believe is an errant directions to a lost soul; when the person may be just wondering and/or wandering. not everyone who is wandering/wondering is lost.
akivah made me aware of this in his post. how we wish to project ourselves is personal.
not everyone and everything is ours to decorate. some things are beautiful as they are in their wildness, and polarity to us and still expressing in an outward and different appearance. they seem different but intrinsically they compliment each other.
love doesn't look at shallow surfaces. it looks deeper and never fathoms the exactness of why. it doesn't become familiar, nor sees this otherness as common. love is like that
I think beliefs should not be forced to anyone.