Poll: Religious garb or religious garbage?

[firedragon]

There was 3 categories. Two different kinds of psychology/sociology and one security. They are then evaluated as per politics and in the end acted upon for which other conclusions are possible.
So I am not to going the play the prove game with you. That is your stick. Please cite all authors for your understanding of proof with relevant citations, authors of counter claims and the final book on everything. Then the world as such, science, sociology, psychology, politics and other relevant cases for the human live.
If you can't do that, you haven't met your own standard.

Okay then. 3 if you say so.

What is the research?

Thanks.

 

[Truthseeker]

Why not? What is it about the human body that offends?

I think going in the nude is going too far myself. It is unattractive actually to me, and for some encourages sexual feelings, and they shoudn't be encouraged. The world today is about sex too much already, not about love. Sexual feelings are not love. It is wanting to take possession, not about caring.

 

[blü 2]

What most Westerners don't understand is the all-encompassing dedication that those such as the Iranian theocratic leaders have to the 'word of God'. They honestly see this 'insignificant' 80ish years on earth as nothing more than an audition for heaven. They don't care what the people think because it just doesn't matter in terms of their final destination.

Alas for the Iranians, then.

 

[ChristineM]

I think going in the nude is going too far myself. It is unattractive actually to me, and for some encourages sexual feelings, and they shoudn't be encouraged. The world today is about sex too much already, not about love. Sexual feelings are not love. It is wanting to take possession, not about caring.

Your view, others (including me) see the human body as beautiful and would not object to nakedness on a warm day.
A cold day though... That's another matter.

I find it interesting that some of the greatest art (including religious art) features the human body, often nude or semi nude yet religion frowns on nudity

 

[Mock Turtle]

We live in a society and so it is important to be respectful of others and the local culture. I would love to spend my days in leggings and t-shirts but if I show up to work like that I'll be getting a call from HR very quickly. There are rules we have to obey, but there are also limits. People should always have the right to dress according to their taste. Using clothes as a weapon to control some people - men aren't that concerned - is a proof of how backwards some societies are.

That was why the 'in general' was there in the last option so as to cater for the many cases where we obviously do have to consider where to dress appropriately, but the thread is mostly about the imposition of dress - and usually from a religious perspective.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Poll: Religious garb or religious garbage?

Isn't it funny to extract "garb" from "garbage" or the vice versa, please? Right?

Regards

Yes, really funny, unless one hasn't got any sense of humour. Or it was just a feeble joke - but the best headline for the thread.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Didnt say that. That's projection. That's what you go with. Projection.

No. I see imposition - by religious authorities, and as to which people are willing to risk their lives to revolt against such.

And hopefully, when people do become a lot more courageous, many more will revolt against such impositions. If these females do want a life of equal value as those of males.

 

[firedragon]

No. I see imposition - by religious authorities

Which religious authorities are imposing oppression in France and Switzerland?

Could you please be kind enough to explain?

 

[Mock Turtle]

Which religious authorities are imposing oppression in France and Switzerland?

Could you please be kind enough to explain?

Try Iran or Afghanistan - unless your telescope can't see that far.

 

[muhammad_isa]

..If these females do want a life of equal value as those of males.

You mean, females who would rather be men?

No, I think you mean females, who wish to show their body parts.

 

[Mock Turtle]

You mean, females who would rather be men?

No, I think you mean females, who wish to show their body parts.

How do you get that implication from 'equal value' - as if difference between males and females somehow affects such?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Okay then. 3 if you say so.

What is the research?

Thanks.

If you accept human interaction is better we can use non-verbal communication and verbal.
If you accept that we should avoid not just yelling fire in a crowded theater, but also similar cases.
If you accept the need for limited freedom when dealing with the enforcement of common safety.

That is it for the basic observations and assessments. And you can still claim it differently.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

You mean, females who would rather be men?

No, I think you mean females, who wish to show their body parts.

Yeah, you are the world and the rest of us are not really relevant to you, because you are the world.

 

[ChristineM]

You mean, females who would rather be men?

How about females who want to be equal

No, I think you mean females, who wish to show their body parts

And? If you cannot control yourself at the sight of a bit of female ankle or face or hair then the problem is not the femals

 

[muhammad_isa]

And? If you cannot control yourself..

Oh, I can control myself.
I have no interest whatsoever in dirty women.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Oh, I can control myself.
I have no interest whatsoever in dirty women.

I like dirty women and men. but I accept you don't. Can you accept that I do?

 

[muhammad_isa]

I like dirty women and men. but I accept you don't. Can you accept that I do?

What you do is your business.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

What you do is your business.

And stay out of mine and I stay out of yours.

 

[muhammad_isa]

And stay out of mine and I stay out of yours.

That sounds rather personal..
I thought we were discussing about whether govts. should be able to make laws regards "dress-code" ..

I say they should, because it is the business of govt. to protect its people from harm, and listen to what the majority want.
In the case of a majority Muslim country, it is not the business of the west to dictate and interfere in this regard, imo.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

That sounds rather personal..
I thought we were discussing about whether govts. should be able to make laws regards "dress-code" ..

I say they should, because it is the business of govt. to protect its people from harm, and listen to what the majority want.
In the case of a majority Muslim country, it is not the business of the west to dictate and interfere in this regard, imo.

But your harm is not public. It is your harm.