Pope Francis Praises the Jewish People

[Coder]

I was happy to see this and I agree with it 100% !

http://www.jta.org/2013/09/12/news-...ises-jews-for-keeping-their-faith-amid-trials

 

[metis]

Yes, he is very open to ecumenism and is not judgemental towards those of different faiths or atheists/agnostics. He doesn't take the "my way or the highway" approach, which is like a breath of fresh air to me.

I wonder if he'll get together with the Dalai Lama at some point in time as I do believe they have a lot in common with their openness.

 

[Flankerl]

Good for him or whatever.

 

[Whiterain]

Honestly, after several millenia of oppression and being conquered I just find it baffling.

I understand some of their means... But being nurtured back into establishment and conquest it's all just perplexing, to say the least...

Even though they worship a War God, if we don't all now worship War Gods... I would refuse to represent such dogma's...


But is it God's will to make Man battle? Well... That's the bottom line on my judgement...

My faith, however, doth not entirely lie in their War God... But, curses, after being conquered ten times over, I don't even know how they stomach it...

Their history must be different from my history, and my history is I would just outright defect from Israel entirely.


There may be some truth in their Bibles and dogma's, but it is not THE TRUTH.

Pope Francis is just meeting the needs of the masses, perhaps he was chosen for this.

 

[metis]

I think that nowadays there's less of a blind belief in scriptures and also less of "my way or the highway" approach in general. However, as we've seen here many times at RF, there are still some "true believers" who go against that trend. It is quite clear that the Pope is more of the former group.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I was happy to see this and I agree with it 100% !

http://www.jta.org/2013/09/12/news-...ises-jews-for-keeping-their-faith-amid-trials

I found this to be relatively shallow, but any Christian leader militantly opposed to pogroms is a good thing.

 

[Coder]

There may be some truth in their Bibles and dogma's,...

I think that the Jewish people have been a model in many ways and I thank them and I am interested in their scholarship and beliefs. Pope John Paul II apologized and what the current Pope is doing are also steps in the right direction. Like metis, I think Churches need to be more open and less "my way or the highway" (an attitude which I think comes from the Roman Empire [to some extent]).

 

[Coder]

I found this to be relatively shallow, but any Christian leader militantly opposed to pogroms is a good thing.

I can see your perspective, but I also agree that at least a new attitude is prevalent among Catholics.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

This is all yippythedippy talk. Its just a talk for the sake of dancing.
He wont say Jews will go to paradise according to catholic belief

 

[metis]

This is all yippythedippy talk. Its just a talk for the sake of dancing.
He wont say Jews will go to paradise according to catholic belief

Actually, he has.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Actually, he has.

So let me get this right.

Francis wants to appease Jews in such a way that it goes against his own religion.

The church fathwrs clearly taught people that only by accepting socalled trinity and socalled divinity of Jesus u can enter paradise.

 

[metis]

So let me get this right.

Francis wants to appease Jews in such a way that it goes against his own religion.

The church fathwrs clearly taught people that only by accepting socalled trinity and socalled divinity of Jesus u can enter paradise.

Read an earlier post from me on this thread to get my response to your last point.

Who said the PF is saying what he has said to "appease the Jews"? He has said much the same about people in other faiths and also atheists/agnostics.

All religions have evolved and will likely continue to do so, for better or worse. Fortunately, at least in this case I believe it's for the better.

 

[Coder]

The Pope meets with many religious:
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/new...ncis-welcomes-sunni-muslim-leader-to-vatican/

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

The pope should follow what Paul said, not follow his own words

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

So let me get this right.

Francis wants to appease Jews in such a way that it goes against his own religion.

The church fathwrs clearly taught people that only by accepting socalled trinity and socalled divinity of Jesus u can enter paradise.

The Pope isn't just a religious leader; he's also a politician by necessity and politics involves compromise.

 

[metis]

The pope should follow what Paul said, not follow his own words

Why are you giving religious advice to a group not of your religion? If I tell you how Muslims should believe, wouldn't that be rather condescending of me?

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Why are you giving religious advice to a group not of your religion? If I tell you how Muslims should believe, wouldn't that be rather condescending of me?

Imagine a Jewish Ultra-Rabbi said Trinity is alright, is perfectly acceptable within judaism.

Would u agree with that?

 

[Flankerl]

So... slow Islamism week or why do you suddenly care about what a dirty kuffar says about other dirty kuffar?

Or have you found Christ?

 

[RabbiO]

Imagine a Jewish Ultra-Rabbi said..........

Ultra-Rabbi???

Does that non-existent title come with a great Ultra-Rabbi superhero costume?

If it does sign me up.

 

[Rival]

Ultra-Rabbi???

Does that non-existent title come with a great Ultra-Rabbi superhero costume?

If it does sign me up.

No, it's a real title! It's from Tumah's Super-Mega-Ultra-Orthodox Judaism. Ask him if you don't believe me!