Porn Pastor

[Shadow Wolf]

@DNB
These are the Seven Fundamental Tennants of the Satanic Temple. This is what I follow. We are godless.
THERE ARE SEVEN FUNDAMENTAL TENETS

I
One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
II
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
III
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
IV
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
V
Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
VI
People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
VII
Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

But yet you'd judge me by appearances. Amd where I'd give you no bother or thought in passing, you'd see the way I am dressed, who I am, and though I wouldn't judge you it is apparent you would judge me.
"Judge not lest ye be judged yourself." It does seem the Satanist is better at fulfilling that than the Christian. You pointed the finger at my former church, but you look to me to have a beam in your own eye.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

If people followed the sexual teachings of the Catholic Church, there wouldn't be an HIV epidemic in Africa. No one got HIV, sexually, from being abstinent or chaste (along with knowing their status beforehand). It's caused by promiscuity and I'm sure their acceptance of polygamy plays a part.

yeah, then only underaged boys would get HIV.


(sorry, couldn't help myself... whenever I see the words "catholic church" and "sex" together, my mind goes to the child abuse and there cover-up efforts)


Anyhow, yeah, sure, if everybody stopped having sex then std's wouldn't spread. Just like how corona slowed down also during lock downs.

But off course, that's not actually dealing with the problem. That's just avoiding it.

Dealing with the problem would be proper education.
But the catholic church off course likes to keep people ignorant.
There's a reason why the churches in europe are mostly empty these days.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

You can't literally see everything through clothing, not unless it's sheer.
Just don't look at people's junk.

That made me lol

However, when one wears a sexy skintight dress without underwear (which is totally fine), one should not be surprised that people are going to be looking / staring.

As a male, I literally can't help myself.
And looking at all the other males I know and see in public, they are the exact same way.
I'm sorry on behalf of all males ever, but it's not like we do it on purpose.

NOT looking is what we would have to be doing on purpose. And in all honesty, to do that on a summer day at the mall is literally exhausting.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I don't want to! They're putting it on display, which is my point! I do mean skin tight. I don't ogle people. Sometimes a glance is all that's needed to see more than you ever wished to see.

So what is it that you find so disturbing exactly?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

So what is it that you find so disturbing exactly?

Yeah. I just see a body. We all have one.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

yeah, then only underaged boys would get HIV.


(sorry, couldn't help myself... whenever I see the words "catholic church" and "sex" together, my mind goes to the child abuse and there cover-up efforts)


Anyhow, yeah, sure, if everybody stopped having sex then std's wouldn't spread. Just like how corona slowed down also during lock downs.

But off course, that's not actually dealing with the problem. That's just avoiding it.

Dealing with the problem would be proper education.
But the catholic church off course likes to keep people ignorant.
There's a reason why the churches in europe are mostly empty these days.

So what is it that you find so disturbing exactly?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

There's a reason why the churches in europe are mostly empty these days.

Who wants to join a group who judges on superficial appearances? Sure, to varying degrees everyone does, but this thread shows a trend in who's judging who as well as the thresholds being sent. And not just appearances, but private lives where everything's consensual.
It's really no surprise that even in America Christianity is losing its hold on society. People are fed up with being judged and being shamed, and their private lives being made someone else's business. Some of us can't even go to the public restroom to pee without some of them "on the look out" and throwing moral objections to my presence. Even in Indiana I heard on the radio "I was they'd shut up because I'm tired of hearing about bathrooms."
And this is just appearances and private lives. It says nothing of the other issues explaining why Christianity is dwindling.

 

[DNB]

I'd much rather associate with those who don't do that. They're less judgemental, have always had my back, and are more interested in knowing me as a person rather than an appearance.

I don't think Jesus is all that great. He said nothing original, he fell short of other moral teachers, and his best example, the golden rule, falls very short when you think it through. I also think humility and modesty are over rated.

...I can't find the dislike icon?

 

[DNB]

@DNB
These are the Seven Fundamental Tennants of the Satanic Temple. This is what I follow. We are godless.
THERE ARE SEVEN FUNDAMENTAL TENETS

But yet you'd judge me by appearances. Amd where I'd give you no bother or thought in passing, you'd see the way I am dressed, who I am, and though I wouldn't judge you it is apparent you would judge me.
"Judge not lest ye be judged yourself." It does seem the Satanist is better at fulfilling that than the Christian. You pointed the finger at my former church, but you look to me to have a beam in your own eye.

What does satanic mean?

 

[nPeace]

I would think the Catholic Church's history of child abuse and covering it up would be a much more pressing reason to quote this verse than the beliefs of the pastor in question. Either the Church has been failing for decades to observe "sound doctrine" (if the doctrine prohibits child abuse, which it does, as far as I know) or the (traditional) doctrine isn't very sound to begin with if it rails against consensual sex more than it does child abuse.

It can be both right?
The Church has been failing for decades to observe "sound doctrine", not only in one specific case, and giving one sinful practice less attention than another, would be a watering down of the word.
In both cases, that's failure.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

...I can't find the dislike icon?

There isn't one.
And what it is more dislikable, I must ask.
Stating opinion about a religious figure, or stating you do judge a book by its cover?

What does satanic mean?

It's doesn't mean the evil and wickedness society assumes it does.

 

[DNB]

There isn't one.
And what it is more dislikable, I must ask.
Stating opinion about a religious figure, or stating you do judge a book by its cover?

Having a rather denigrating of Jesus, when you have read so much about him, and know him as well as one does from the New Testament, is one thousand times worse then making a judgement call upon first impressions. For if the one who is of the latter position is wrong, it's easy to mitigate on their behalf for misreading a momentary sign. But, when one cannot recognize humility, compassion and love when they see it over an extended period of time, as in the Gospels,, then I would call that observer's heart as being blackened.

It's doesn't mean the evil and wickedness society assumes it does.

Oh, but it does. From its roots, it etymologically does:

devil.
διαβόλου (diabolou)
Adjective - Genitive Masculine Singular
Strong's 1228: From diaballo; a traducer; specially, Satan

Satan!”
Σατανᾶ (Satana)
Noun - Vocative Masculine Singular
Strong's 4567: An adversary, Satan. Of Chaldee origin corresponding to ma'bad; the accuser, i.e. The devil.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Having a rather denigrating of Jesus, when you have read so much about him, and know him as well as one does from the New Testament, is one thousand times worse then making a judgement call upon first impressions. For if the one who is of the latter position is wrong, it's easy to mitigate on their behalf for misreading a momentary sign. But, when one cannot recognize humility, compassion and love when they see it over an extended period of time, as in the Gospels,, then I would call that observer's heart as being blackened.


Oh, but it does. From its roots, it etymologically does:

devil.
διαβόλου (diabolou)
Adjective - Genitive Masculine Singular
Strong's 1228: From diaballo; a traducer; specially, Satan

Satan!”
Σατανᾶ (Satana)
Noun - Vocative Masculine Singular
Strong's 4567: An adversary, Satan. Of Chaldee origin corresponding to ma'bad; the accuser, i.e. The devil.

You put too much faith into etymology. When a person tells you what he believes and why it is best to believe that person.

 

[DNB]

You put too much faith into etymology. When a person tells you what he believes and why it is best to believe that person.

You put too much faith in the sentiments of a lost soul. She's being seduced and beguiled, can you not tell the difference?

 

[Aupmanyav]

I would think the Catholic Church's history of child abuse ..

Is the Catholic Church the only religious institution where child abuse occurs?

You put too much faith in the sentiments of a lost soul. She's being seduced and beguiled, can you not tell the difference?

Shadow Wolf, I believe, is having a nice time. Keep your demons to yourself.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Having a rather denigrating of Jesus, when you have read so much about him, and know him as well as one does from the New Testament, is one thousand times worse then making a judgement call upon first impressions. For if the one who is of the latter position is wrong, it's easy to mitigate on their behalf for misreading a momentary sign. But, when one cannot recognize humility, compassion and love when they see it over an extended period of time, as in the Gospels,, then I would call that observer's heart as being blackened.

Except my heart has been opened greatly since then. I learned greater compassion without, as there were no more moral judgements to make. Judgements such as those made by yourself throughout this thread. With Jesus I was following rules. After I had to think about things.
And, ultimately, it has grown enough that I cannot stand by such a violent, iron fisted dictator. Eternal damnation is not just or right.

Oh, but it does. From its roots, it etymologically does:

You're going to need specific examples. I showed you our tenets: something specific. What do we do that is wicked?

 

[DNB]

Except my heart has been opened greatly since then. I learned greater compassion without, as there were no more moral judgements to make. Judgements such as those made by yourself throughout this thread. With Jesus I was following rules. After I had to think about things.
And, ultimately, it has grown enough that I cannot stand by such a violent, iron fisted dictator. Eternal damnation is not just or right.

In my opinion, Satan always gives at first so that you let your guard down , then he takes everything. He's playing nice guy with you knowing that you had a bad experience elsewhere (devil's advocate one could say). He will crush you when he gets a chance, in my opinion.

You're going to need specific examples. I showed you our tenets: something specific. What do we do that is wicked?

I already showed you the definition. In my opinion, you have no idea who you're messing with. Your statement of faith is meaningless unless it is practiced as such, and as you all call yourselves the 'adversaries', then expect conflict and contention, accusations and humiliation.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

In my opinion, Satan always gives at first so that you let your guard down , then he takes everything. He's playing nice guy with you knowing that you had a bad experience elsewhere (devil's advocate one could say). He will crush you when he gets a chance, in my opinion.

That is your opinion.
But ultimately it was Jehovah who was crushing me.

I already showed you the definition. In my opinion, you have no idea who you're messing with. Your statement of faith is meaningless unless it is practiced as such, and as you all call yourselves the 'adversaries', then expect conflict and contention, accusations and humiliation.

But you give nothing concrete. Just what you think.
And you seem to be avoiding the Seven Tenets, as well as my personal anecdotes of moral growth since leaving the Church.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I don't understand this reply.
Care to put into text what you meant with 3 emoji's?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Is the Catholic Church the only religious institution where child abuse occurs?Shadow Wolf, I believe, is having a nice time. Keep your demons to yourself.

There can be child abuse in any church of any religion. It seems to be all too common in some of the weird offshoots. But the Catholic Church is the only one that I know of where the abusers were protected by the Church. They had a history of keeping such abuses quiet. Moving a priest if necessary to a new diocese without warning people what they were getting. As a result some priests had a long history and many victims at various locations. Most other churches would fire such pastors. Often there would be an attempt to cover it up, but at least the cause of the problem would be gone.