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Post a Fact or Two You Don't Think Anyone Else Knows.

Skwim

Veteran Member
A strawberry is not a fruit
Sure it is. It's an aggregate fruit.

"An aggregate fruit or etaerio is a fruit that develops from the merger of several ovaries that were separate in a single flower.
Source:Wikipedia​

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Belonging to one of the three categories of fruit:

Simple (one flower, one ovary)
Aggregate (one flower, many ovaries)
Multiple (many flowers, one ovary each)

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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Sure it is. It's an aggregate fruit.

"An aggregate fruit or etaerio is a fruit that develops from the merger of several ovaries that were separate in a single flower.
Source:Wikipedia​

strawberry1.jpg


Belonging to one of the three categories of fruit:

Simple (one flower, one ovary)
Aggregate (one flower, many ovaries)
Multiple (many flowers, one ovary each)

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Only by cultural definition is it a fruit, it doesn't actually develop from the ovary of the plant, so it isn't a standard botanical fruit.

"The strawberry plant, genus Fragaria, is a member of the rose family. Strawberries are not technically fruit, but pseudocarps (also known as false fruit or accessory fruit). A pseudocarp is a fruitlike structure consisting of tissue that is not derived from the ovary wall. The true fruits of the strawberry plant are actually the small seeds (achenes) found on the outer surface"

However, i take your point and apologise, i really should gave said a strawberry is not a berry.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Only by cultural definition is it a fruit, it doesn't actually develop from the ovary of the plant, so it isn't a standard botanical fruit.

Nope. Botanically it's considered to be a fruit.

Page 425. Nadakavukaren, Matthew, and McCracken, Derek. Botany: an Introduction to Plant Biology. New York, 1985

"Variations in the structure of flowers lead to variations in the structure of fruits derived from them. A simple fruit is derived exclusively from a single pistil, whereas an aggregate fruit is formed from several separate pistils of the same flower. A fruit derived from more than one flower is a multiple fruit."​

Page 298. Weier, T. Elliot, Stocking, C. Ralph, Barbour Michael G. Botany: An Introduction to Plant Biology 5th Edition, New York, John Wiley & Sons, 1974

"Aggregate Fruits
An aggregate fruit is one formed from numerous carpels of one individual flower. The strawberry flower has numerous separate carpals on a single receptacle."

Page 141. Rost, Thomas L. et. al.. Botany: a brief Introduction to Plant Biology. New York, John Wiley & Sons,1979

"Aggregate fruits and multiple fruits are formed by clusters. The difference between these types of fruits depends on the number of flowers involved in their formation. In strawberry (Fragaria) and blackberry (Rubus) the aggregate fruit is derived from many ovaries of a single flower."

However, i take your point and apologise, i really should gave said a strawberry is not a berry.
That, it is not. Cucumbers, eggplants, bananas, and tomatoes are berries.

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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Nope. Botanically it's considered to be a fruit.

Page 425. Nadakavukaren, Matthew, and McCracken, Derek. Botany: an Introduction to Plant Biology. New York, 1985

"Variations in the structure of flowers lead to variations in the structure of fruits derived from them. A simple fruit is derived exclusively from a single pistil, whereas an aggregate fruit is formed from several separate pistils of the same flower. A fruit derived from more than one flower is a multiple fruit."​
Page 298. Weier, T. Elliot, Stocking, C. Ralph, Barbour Michael G. Botany: An Introduction to Plant Biology 5th Edition, New York, John Wiley & Sons, 1974

"Aggregate Fruits
An aggregate fruit is one formed from numerous carpels of one individual flower. The strawberry flower has numerous separate carpals on a single receptacle."

Page 141. Rost, Thomas L. et. al.. Botany: a brief Introduction to Plant Biology. New York, John Wiley & Sons,1979

"Aggregate fruits and multiple fruits are formed by clusters. The difference between these types of fruits depends on the number of flowers involved in their formation. In strawberry (Fragaria) and blackberry (Rubus) the aggregate fruit is derived from many ovaries of a single flower."


That, it is not. Cucumbers, eggplants, bananas, and tomatoes are berries.

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Botanically, a fruit is the ovary of a flowering plant (think of how oranges, bananas, apples, etc, have seeds in them). However, the strawberry doesn't actually develop from the ovary of the plant, so it isn't a standard botanical fruit. "Technically, the strawberry is an aggregate accessory fruit, meaning that the fleshy part is derived not from the plant's ovaries but from the receptacle that holds the ovaries. Each apparent 'seed' (achene) on the outside of the fruit is actually one of the ovaries of the flower, with a seed inside it." (Strawberry Esau, K. (1977). Anatomy of seed plants. John Wiley and Sons, New York.)
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Sure it is. It's an aggregate fruit.

"An aggregate fruit or etaerio is a fruit that develops from the merger of several ovaries that were separate in a single flower.
Source:Wikipedia​

strawberry1.jpg


Belonging to one of the three categories of fruit:

Simple (one flower, one ovary)
Aggregate (one flower, many ovaries)
Multiple (many flowers, one ovary each)

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Perhaps you should start a new thread
Facts that nobody important cares about at all.

It could be matched with
Sexual kinks nobody important cares to know about.
:)
Tom
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Botanically, a fruit is the ovary of a flowering plant (think of how oranges, bananas, apples, etc, have seeds in them). However, the strawberry doesn't actually develop from the ovary of the plant, so it isn't a standard botanical fruit. "Technically, the strawberry is an aggregate accessory fruit, meaning that the fleshy part is derived not from the plant's ovaries but from the receptacle that holds the ovaries. Each apparent 'seed' (achene) on the outside of the fruit is actually one of the ovaries of the flower, with a seed inside it." (Strawberry Esau, K. (1977). Anatomy of seed plants. John Wiley and Sons, New York.)
Yup, but . . ."A standard botanical fruit"? What the heck is that?

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VioletVortex

Well-Known Member
Sure it is. It's an aggregate fruit.

"An aggregate fruit or etaerio is a fruit that develops from the merger of several ovaries that were separate in a single flower.
Source:Wikipedia​

strawberry1.jpg


Belonging to one of the three categories of fruit:

Simple (one flower, one ovary)
Aggregate (one flower, many ovaries)
Multiple (many flowers, one ovary each)

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It's not a fruit. It's a a group of fruits. There's a difference....
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
It's not a fruit. It's a a group of fruits. There's a difference....
Tell it to the six professors of botany and such who had a hand in writing the three sources I cite in post 65.

Nadakavukaren, Matthew:, Professor of botany at Illinois State University

McCracken, Derek: Associate professor of biological sciences at Illinose State University


Weier, T. Elliot: Professor of Botany, University of California, Davis

Stocking, C. Ralph: Professor of Botany, University of California, Davis

Barbour, Michael G.: Professor Emeritus of Botany at the University of California, Davis.


Rost, Thomas L: Professor of Plant Biology at the University of California, Davis and currently the Executive Associate Dean there in the Division of Biological Sciences.
Not to slight your recently acquired knowledge of fruit, but I'm going to defer to their considerable expertise and consensus. They consider the strawberry a fruit, and that's good enough for me.

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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Yup, but . . ."A standard botanical fruit"? What the heck is that?

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Cherry picking? You missed out 3 key words and bastardised the sentence by capitalising the letter after your omission.

Next time quote the whole sentence

However, the strawberry doesn't actually develop from the ovary of the plant, so it isn't a standard botanical fruit.

Notice the key words you omitted and the letter you changed?

so it isn't (a becomes A) standard botanical fruit.

How sad.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Tell it to the six professors of botany and such who had a hand in writing the three sources I cite in post 65.

Nadakavukaren, Matthew:, Professor of botany at Illinois State University

McCracken, Derek: Associate professor of biological sciences at Illinose State University


Weier, T. Elliot: Professor of Botany, University of California, Davis

Stocking, C. Ralph: Professor of Botany, University of California, Davis

Barbour, Michael G.: Professor Emeritus of Botany at the University of California, Davis.


Rost, Thomas L: Professor of Plant Biology at the University of California, Davis and currently the Executive Associate Dean there in the Division of Biological Sciences.
Not to slight your recently acquired knowledge of fruit, but I'm going to defer to their considerable expertise and consensus. They consider the strawberry a fruit, and that's good enough for me.

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And hyperbole, you must be getting desperate to cherry pick and hyperbole
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
And hyperbole, you must be getting desperate to cherry pick and hyperbole
I just love it when my posts hit home. Reducing people to attacking me and not the substance of what I've said.

Thanks for the Day Brightener CM. I look forward to more such confirmations. Not that I need them, but those like yours here are amusing. Oh yes, "hyperbole" is a noun, not a verb. Just one more fact you might want to put in your memory bank alongside strawberry = fruit. :D

However, you are correct in noting the typo I made---actually I had originally started out the sentence with the quote---when I forgot to change the capitalized"a" to a small "a" in "A standard botanical fruit." Not that it makes any difference, but thank you for pointing it out. Can't be too careful when you desperate nit picker types are out and about. ;)

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By the way, welcome to RF. :thumbsup:

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LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Far as I can tell, I am for all practical effects and purposes the only person in the whole world who ever used the expression "Morituri Delendi".
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Far as I can tell, I am for all practical effects and purposes the only person in the whole world who ever used the expression "Morituri Delendi".
"Those who are to die, or to be killed, should be destroyed"? Now, is that very nice way to talk?

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Akivah

Well-Known Member
Most Christians that I've spoken too, are unaware that the Christian bible is materially different than the Hebrew Bible.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
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I just love it when my posts hit home. Reducing people to attacking me and not the substance of what I've said.

Thanks for the Day Brightener CM. I look forward to more such confirmations. Not that I need them, but those like yours here are amusing. Oh yes, "hyperbole" is a noun, not a verb. Just one more fact you might want to put in your memory bank alongside strawberry = fruit. :D

However, you are correct in noting the typo I made---actually, I had originally started out the sentence with the quote---when I forgot to change the capitalized "a" to a small "a" in "A standard botanical fruit." Not that it makes any difference, but thank you for pointing it out. Can't be too careful when you desperate nit pickers are out and about. ;)

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By the way, welcome to RF. :thumbsup:

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I will quote

"Not to slight your recently acquired knowledge of fruit, "

your words so who was doing the attacking?

Yes you screwed up and were caught out cherry picking and now try to gloss over your bad by claiming typo. Good you could admit it
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
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I will quote

"Not to slight your recently acquired knowledge of fruit, "

your words so who was doing the attacking?

Yes you screwed up and were caught out cherry picking and now try to gloss over your bad by claiming typo. Good you could admit it
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You nit pickers are certainly a funny lot.
....."Teehee"

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Skwim

Veteran Member
Most Christians that I've spoken too, are unaware that the Christian bible is materially different than the Hebrew Bible.
Well, this is one pretty safe fact that no one else knew: I sure wasn't aware that most of the Christians you've spoken to were unaware that the Christian bible is materially different than the Hebrew Bible. In fact, I didn't even know you spoke to Christians. :shrug:

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