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Posting for Frubals

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Who considers writing a post with possible frubals in mind inappropriate?

The argument for it is that it keeps one thinking about what others do and don't want to read, which can improve posting. It's had that effect on me. I just changed the word "clown" to "man" in an RF post because of that.

I have a tendency to want to expand on a point beyond what's necessary to make it, and I noticed this hurts my frubal count. As a consequence, I'm working on staying more focused and being less tangential.

I used to go too far in criticisms of other posters, and needed a correction or two from the mods, but now understand that nobody likes to read that, and it can convert a post with some good points to one people don't want to commend any longer. I go further in that direction now than when I was merely trying to avoid being criticized.

I noticed that not long after that, my approval ratings improved, so I pushed it further. I now add compliments to my posts that while sincere, don't really need to be said to make my point, but make that point more palatable to others. Isn't that a good thing - responding to such social cues?

Also, I give up trying to make a point or explain something sooner than I would if I wasn't aware that such posts are of no value to anybody because they never get a frubal. Isn't that meaningful? People reading along are no longer interested.

And isn't that why frubals exist - for that feedback? Why include them here if not for that purpose?

I'll go a little further. I keep a ratio of frubals to posts going next to my tabs of latest alerts and trending topics, and update it daily. I just hit 1.28 this morning, a new high. I want to see if I can get to 1.3. It's a game I've been playing for years:

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Yet posting with frubals in mind seems sleazy, like fishing for compliments.

Any thoughts?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
If people think a post is worth a frubal (actually not been frubals for many years but the name has stuck) they give the appropriate frubal... Well at least i do. And i really enjoy your posts which i will frube as required.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Who considers writing a post with possible frubals in mind inappropriate?

The argument for it is that it keeps one thinking about what others do and don't want to read, which can improve posting. It's had that effect on me. I just changed the word "clown" to "man" in an RF post because of that.

I have a tendency to want to expand on a point beyond what's necessary to make it, and I noticed this hurts my frubal count. As a consequence, I'm working on staying more focused and being less tangential.

I used to go too far in criticisms of other posters, and needed a correction or two from the mods, but now understand that nobody likes to read that, and it can convert a post with some good points to one people don't want to commend any longer. I go further in that direction now than when I was merely trying to avoid being criticized.

I noticed that not long after that, my approval ratings improved, so I pushed it further. I now add compliments to my posts that while sincere, don't really need to be said to make my point, but make that point more palatable to others. Isn't that a good thing - responding to such social cues?

Also, I give up trying to make a point or explain something sooner than I would if I wasn't aware that such posts are of no value to anybody because they never get a frubal. Isn't that meaningful? People reading along are no longer interested.

And isn't that why frubals exist - for that feedback? Why include them here if not for that purpose?

I'll go a little further. I keep a ratio of frubals to posts going next to my tabs of latest alerts and trending topics, and update it daily. I just hit 1.28 this morning, a new high. I want to see if I can get to 1.3. It's a game I've been playing for years:

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Yet posting with frubals in mind seems sleazy, like fishing for compliments.

Any thoughts?
I'm getting convinced that frubals are a type of social credit score.

I wonder if Xi had anything to do with it? Hmmmm....
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Personally, I prefer to just improve the nature of my posts for my own personal growth. Calling people idiots, for instance doesn't help me in my personal life, as it simply harbors negative energies as stress, and that's not ultimately healthy for my overall general wellbeing.

As far as looking for likes and whatnot, it's best to not have any expectations like that. It's nice if they are they, and they are appreciated, but if they aren't there, no big deal. There is a saying I learned recently that helps. "An expectation is a pre-planned resentment".

I like that, because it does prove to be true. And manifesting and harboring resentments only hurts myself. So I believe lightening up on those is best. If applause comes, great. If not, I didn't do it for that to begin with.
 

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
Who considers writing a post with possible frubals in mind inappropriate?

The argument for it is that it keeps one thinking about what others do and don't want to read, which can improve posting. It's had that effect on me. I just changed the word "clown" to "man" in an RF post because of that.

I have a tendency to want to expand on a point beyond what's necessary to make it, and I noticed this hurts my frubal count. As a consequence, I'm working on staying more focused and being less tangential.

I used to go too far in criticisms of other posters, and needed a correction or two from the mods, but now understand that nobody likes to read that, and it can convert a post with some good points to one people don't want to commend any longer. I go further in that direction now than when I was merely trying to avoid being criticized.

I noticed that not long after that, my approval ratings improved, so I pushed it further. I now add compliments to my posts that while sincere, don't really need to be said to make my point, but make that point more palatable to others. Isn't that a good thing - responding to such social cues?

Also, I give up trying to make a point or explain something sooner than I would if I wasn't aware that such posts are of no value to anybody because they never get a frubal. Isn't that meaningful? People reading along are no longer interested.

And isn't that why frubals exist - for that feedback? Why include them here if not for that purpose?

I'll go a little further. I keep a ratio of frubals to posts going next to my tabs of latest alerts and trending topics, and update it daily. I just hit 1.28 this morning, a new high. I want to see if I can get to 1.3. It's a game I've been playing for years:

View attachment 68467

Yet posting with frubals in mind seems sleazy, like fishing for compliments.

Any thoughts?

Your frubal count seems okay to me. :shrug:

If considering it helps you make your posts the best they can be, though, I don't see a problem with the concept.

I tend to post more in hopes of getting my point across in a friendly, and possibly entertaining way. I don't really worry about frubal count, but they can be nice. Its like a virtual 'hug' or 'high five'.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Nowadays, I word my posts not with frubals in mind but with consideration for how they may come across to someone who is completely, diametrically opposed to the points I express therein. Posts on a public forum are accessible by all, at the end of the day, and wording them in a heavily polarized manner sometimes amounts to preaching to the choir and alienating everyone else. I usually don't see much point in that on a diverse forum.
 

MikeF

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Who considers writing a post with possible frubals in mind inappropriate?

The argument for it is that it keeps one thinking about what others do and don't want to read, which can improve posting. It's had that effect on me. I just changed the word "clown" to "man" in an RF post because of that.

I have a tendency to want to expand on a point beyond what's necessary to make it, and I noticed this hurts my frubal count. As a consequence, I'm working on staying more focused and being less tangential.

I used to go too far in criticisms of other posters, and needed a correction or two from the mods, but now understand that nobody likes to read that, and it can convert a post with some good points to one people don't want to commend any longer. I go further in that direction now than when I was merely trying to avoid being criticized.

I noticed that not long after that, my approval ratings improved, so I pushed it further. I now add compliments to my posts that while sincere, don't really need to be said to make my point, but make that point more palatable to others. Isn't that a good thing - responding to such social cues?

Also, I give up trying to make a point or explain something sooner than I would if I wasn't aware that such posts are of no value to anybody because they never get a frubal. Isn't that meaningful? People reading along are no longer interested.

And isn't that why frubals exist - for that feedback? Why include them here if not for that purpose?

I'll go a little further. I keep a ratio of frubals to posts going next to my tabs of latest alerts and trending topics, and update it daily. I just hit 1.28 this morning, a new high. I want to see if I can get to 1.3. It's a game I've been playing for years:

View attachment 68467

Yet posting with frubals in mind seems sleazy, like fishing for compliments.

Any thoughts?

I'm beginning to see myself as a frubal generator for others as praise pours in for those who challenge and criticize my posts. :)
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Inappropriate? No, simply juvenile.

Thanks for the feedback. I understand it as a negative frubal, which this site has chosen not to offer as an option. Negative feedback is also useful.

A counterargument would have been more appreciated, as I don't know why you think that, nor why you chose to not address any of the constructive aspects of frugals mentioned. Presumably you reject all of that.

I'm beginning to see myself as a frubal generator for others as praise pours in for those who challenge and criticize my posts.

You're probably kidding, and I don't believe that - your posts are easy to like - but wouldn't that be useful information to you?
 

MikeF

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
You're probably kidding, and I don't believe that - your posts are easy to like - but wouldn't that be useful information to you?

Yes, I am attempting to be funny, it's a challenge. :)

There are certainly times, I'm sure for us all, where we find ourselves the lone voice on one side of an issue and as such, the frubals will be rare.

I definitely do not cater my comments to the prospect of frubals but definitely feel a sense of pleasure in receiving them.
 

MikeF

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The question I would really like to ask everyone, is whether the optimistic frubal is the sole negative frubal rating. I often get the sense that its primary use is as an expression of sarcasm, that it's like saying, "Sure, buddy, that's gonna happen when pigs fly" or "If you think that's true I have a bridge to sell ya real cheap!"

Am I wrong about this?
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
It's interesting to consider that in the original system (pre-XenForo) feedback given also involved leaving a comment and writing out some words. So there was more to the "like" system than just clicking a button with a pretty icon.

I miss that system.
 

MikeF

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The question I would really like to ask everyone, is whether the optimistic frubal is the sole negative frubal rating. I often get the sense that its primary use is as an expression of sarcasm, that it's like saying, "Sure, buddy, that's gonna happen when pigs fly" or "If you think that's true I have a bridge to sell ya real cheap!"

Am I wrong about this?

Ouch! :)
 

MikeF

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
It's interesting to consider that in the original system (pre-XenForo) feedback given also involved leaving a comment and writing out some words. So there was more to the "like" system than just clicking a button with a pretty icon.

I miss that system.

Perhaps such a system is less efficient, taking up more server space, or simply considered redundant as you can quote in a response and say what you liked.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I never post for statistics, eg, frubal count, post count.
That would be cheating. I just post what calls to me.
But I still like me numbers.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
The question I would really like to ask everyone, is whether the optimistic frubal is the sole negative frubal rating. I often get the sense that its primary use is as an expression of sarcasm, that it's like saying, "Sure, buddy, that's gonna happen when pigs fly" or "If you think that's true I have a bridge to sell ya real cheap!"

Am I wrong about this?
Optimistic frubal how I use it:
1) Thanks for your Optimistic POV
2) Thanks for your Positive reply
3) Always look at the bright side of life

I never reply with sarcasm, irony, cynicism
 
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