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prayer getting repetitive

Eddi

Christianity, Taoism, and Humanism
Premium Member
For the past few months I have made a point to pray every night before going to bed

However, I have found this to be very repetitive......

Surely I don't need to repeat myself to God every night?

If I've already articulated what I have to say then why do I have to repeat it each night?

It's not as if the more you pray the more he listens

I don't see any point in continuing this practice

I therefore see no point in maintaining this nightly prayer ritual
 

VoidCat

Use any and all pronouns including neo and it/it's
Hmmm...try this it might help you not get repetitive... Tell God about your day. How it is going and how you appreciate him
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
The repetitive nature is meant to bring with it a sense of familiarity, like a cup of tea, despite how bad your day has been you can do one thing that emotionally grounds you and also reminds you of God. If it doesn't work for you though, it doesn't work. As VC said, try mixing it with your own prayers. It's what I used to do and it works a lot better imo.
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
I only pray when I feel the need to - when I feel overly grateful about something, even things that have always been there, I pray in thanks and when I need help I ask God for guidance (or, more selfishly, ask him if he could “give me! Give me! Pretty please?”
 

Eddi

Christianity, Taoism, and Humanism
Premium Member
The repetitive nature is meant to bring with it a sense of familiarity, like a cup of tea, despite how bad your day has been you can do one thing that emotionally grounds you and also reminds you of God. If it doesn't work for you though, it doesn't work. As VC said, try mixing it with your own prayers. It's what I used to do and it works a lot better imo.
It doesn't work for me!

But I do frequently address God with my thoughts as I go about my business, throughout the day
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
If I've already articulated what I have to say then why do I have to repeat it each night?
I do frequently address God with my thoughts as I go about my business, throughout the day
First, I'll say that thoughts, in my opinion, do count as prayer. But, verbalising those thoughts, I think, has a specific purpose and benefit. Even if they are repetitive, even if you don't feel energized by it.

What you're describing sounds to me a little like sloth. Everyone has it, no one is immune to it. Sloth is easiest identified because it asks, "what's the point?" And without an answer the person stops whatever they had planned on doing. That's sloth.

Sloth can be a big problem, it inhibits goals and productivity, perhaps leads to depression, or even an existential crisis.

The thing about sloth is, it's cumulative. It builds on itself. It feeds and it grows. Initially it asks, "what's the point?", and if the person has no answer, and if the person ceases their plan, the next day sloth asks, "Yesterday there wasn't a point? What's different about today?" And each day of inactivity builds on the last day and the day before. Soon, sloth branches out and asks, "Those other things had no point? What's the point of what you're doing now? What's the point of all your beliefs hopes and dreams? Maybe it's best to stay home and take a nap, nothing really matters anyway?"

Kind of an extreme example, but that's how I think sloth operates. It starts out small, just asking a seemingly innocent question. It restricts passion and inhibits it.

But to be fair, sloth can be a good thing, if it is used to quiet those passions when they run rampant like in rage or frustration or arrogance.

So sloth has its purpose, it's not evil, but it needs to be controlled. How to control it? First step: recognize it when it's small. Second step: decide not to give up. Third step: do something to get the blood moving.

Now, what's the difference between a prayer in thought and a prayer in speech? Blood. The heart becomes active. The heart and blood are the antidote to sloth. Moving the lips and jaw and tongue, raising the palete, moving the diaphram, all of that is physical action, engaging the heart and pumping life blood through the body. By doing this sloth is subjegated to the mind, to a choice, to a commitment, to duty, and ultimately to free-will. And *that* is a very useful tool to have on your belt.

It's easy for sloth to bubble up at prayer time and ask, "what's the point of saying these words? You've said them before, why say them again? God knows what you'll say, God knows the content of your heart, God is aware of your intentions? How does it matter?" And it's totally normal and natural to be stumped by this question in the moment without preparation. But the answer is: "I do it because I choose to, I made a commitment, to have an ongoing relationship, and part of that is this seemingly meaningless task. Stopping this easy thing, will likely lead to stopping other parts of the realtionship, and I don't want that. Besides, I am a free person, I don't need to justify this simple action, I am executing my own will."

Using these ideas, I think, there's plenty of opportunity for inspiration enhancing the act of daily verbal prayers: there's the ideas of blood, heart, duty, and free-will.

But even deeper, even more potent, consider that God creates not with thought, but with speech. And as beings made in the likeness and form of God, perhaps, maybe, we have been endowed with a similar diminshed faculty. Are verbal prayers an act of divine creation? That's fuel for thought as well.
 
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Eddi

Christianity, Taoism, and Humanism
Premium Member
First, I'll say that thoughts, in my opinion, do count as prayer. But, verbalising those thoughts, I think, has a specific purpose and benefit. Even if they are repetitive, even if you don't feel energized by it.

What you're describing sounds to me a little like sloth. Everyone has it, no one is immune to it. Sloth is easiest identified because it asks, "what's the point?" And without an answer the person stops whatever they had planned on doing. That's sloth.

Sloth can be a big problem, it inhibits goals and productivity, perhaps leads to depression, or even an existential crisis.

The thing about sloth is, it's cumulative. It builds on itself. It feeds and it grows. Initially it asks, "what's the point?", and if the person has no answer, and if the person ceases their plan, the next day sloth asks, "Yesterday there wasn't a point? What's different about today?" And each day of inactivity builds on the last day and the day before. Soon, sloth branches out and asks, "Those other things had no point? What's the point of what you're doing now? What's the point of all your beliefs hopes and dreams? Maybe it's best to stay home and take a nap, nothing really matters anyway?"

Kind of an extreme example, but that's how I think sloth operates. It starts out small, just asking a seemingly innocent question. It restricts passion and inhibits it.

But to be fair, sloth can be a good thing, if it is used to quiet those passions when they run rampant like in rage or frustration or arrogance.

So sloth has its purpose, it's not evil, but it needs to be controlled. How to control it? First step: recognize it when it's small. Second step: decide not to give up. Third step: do something to get the blood moving.

Now, what's the difference between a prayer in thought and a prayer in speech? Blood. The heart becomes active. The heart and blood are the antidote to sloth. Moving the lips and jaw and tongue, raising the palete, moving the diaphram, all of that is physical action, engaging the heart and pumping life blood through the body. By doing this sloth is subjegated to the mind, to a choice, to a commitment, to duty, and ultimately to free-will. And *that* is a very useful tool to have on your belt.

It's easy for sloth to bubble up at prayer time and ask, "what's the point of saying these words? You've said them before, why say them again? God knows what you'll say, God knows the content of your heart, God is aware of your intentions? How does it matter?" And it's totally normal and natural to be stumped by this question in the moment without preparation. But the answer is: "I do it because I choose to, I made a commitment, to have an ongoing relationship, and part of that is this seemingly meaningless task. Stopping this easy thing, will likely lead to stopping other parts of the realtionship, and I don't want that. Besides, I am a free person, I don't need to justify this simple action, I am executing my own will."

Using these ideas, I think, there's plenty of opportunity for inspiration enhancing the act of daily verbal prayers: there's the ideas of blood, heart, duty, and free-will.

But even deeper, even more potent, consider that God creates not with thought, but with speech. And as beings made in the likeness and form of God, perhaps, maybe, we have been endowed with a similar diminshed faculty. Are verbal prayers an act of divine creation? That's fuel for thought as well.
You are very sensible!
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
In my college days I had a roommate once that was into Nichiren Buddhism. Trust me, compared to them your prayers are not repetitive. They use the constant repetition of "Namu Myoho Renge Ku" as a mantra. The only problem is that it is done orally and after a while I would voice a complaint.

At any rate the repetitive nature of prayer is not necessarily a bug. One can use it as a way to bring you closer to your deity.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
For the past few months I have made a point to pray every night before going to bed

However, I have found this to be very repetitive......

Surely I don't need to repeat myself to God every night?

If I've already articulated what I have to say then why do I have to repeat it each night?

It's not as if the more you pray the more he listens

I don't see any point in continuing this practice

I therefore see no point in maintaining this nightly prayer ritual
Catholics have repetition down to an art form.
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Silent meditation can remove the need for words. If the purpose of prayer is simply to connect with a God of one’s l understanding, then words aren’t really necessary.

If we’re asking for guidance or support, however, it may help to be specific. Then there’s the expression of gratitude; it can be enormously helpful to list the things we’re grateful for, which we may be in danger of forgetting or taking for granted. Just saying thank you for something like clouds and birdsong, for example, helps me appreciate them more.
 
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