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Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
How come it never saw public light and was never mentioned in any of the historical, philosophical or political writings then? Nowadays, just a couple of years ago, this term popped up and all the people go wild about it and try to promote political, philosophical and even (as you do) historical justification for it.
it think this is simply a modern zeitgeist and joke honestly. the only cases i am familar with, of the transsexual people/creatures, is ancient MYTHOLOGY.
I think it's time that your Greco-Roman card was revoked:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elagabalus#Sex.2Fgender_controversy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galli
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_in_Bugis_society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muxe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_sworn_virgins

Etc., etc.
 

Princeps Eugenius

Active Member
Pfff
Elgabalus was probably just a bi-sexual, they were always depicted more "feminine" and his ancient account of acting like a harlot was probably written by an opponent as to discredit him. The Galli were castrated priests of Cybele, a cult that has nothing to do with native greco-roman religion, as it originated in asia minor. The ancient Hijra, were also castrated eunuchs, who were sexually bisexual, and only could take it up the *** or perform fellatio because they didnt have a penis any longer. The other ones have nothing to do with Hellenic or Roman paganism and i believe the Muxe is just a modern fabrication to fuel the fire of progressive ideology. Yes, you can actually invent historical mumbo jumbo to have a credibile justification for what you want to advance politically. Balkan sworn virgins were women who stayed virgins, like the mythological amazons.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Pfff
Elgabalus was probably just a bi-sexual, they were always depicted more "feminine" and his ancient account of acting like a harlot was probably written by an opponent as to discredit him. The Galli were castrated priests of Cybele, a cult that has nothing to do with native greco-roman religion, as it originated in asia minor. The ancient Hijra, were also castrated eunuchs, who were sexually bisexual, and only could take it up the *** or perform fellatio because they didnt have a penis any longer. The other ones have nothing to do with Hellenic or Roman paganism and i believe the Muxe is just a modern fabrication to fuel the fire of progressive ideology. Yes, you can actually invent historical mumbo jumbo to have a credibile justification for what you want to advance politically. Balkan sworn virgins were women who stayed virgins, like the mythological amazons.
Um, bisexual men aren't going to castrate themselves and live as women. Men tend to love their genitals a lot, obsessively so much of the time. Bisexuality among males was quite common in the Greco-Roman world, so why would a bisexual man in that culture do that? That doesn't make a bit of sense. Obviously they were more comfortable living as women.

Where those cults began is irrelevant. They were part of the Greco-Roman world and you should know about them.

As for the sworn virgins, they actually take on the social role, behavior and dress of men. The Wiki article points out that at least some of them report identifying more as male in the first place.

You'll have to provide some evidence that the Muxe are just a "modern fabrication". That doesn't make a bit of sense. I think you're trying too hard to explain it away. Is someone feeling uncomfortable? :rolleyes:
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
How come it never saw public light and was never mentioned in any of the historical, philosophical or political writings then?
It is. It was even very common throughout Native American culture to consider someone born of one sex and identifying, acting, and appearing as the other sex as imbued with special abilities, prestigious positions were reserved exclusively for them, and it was considered good luck to be married to one.
Nowadays, just a couple of years ago, this term popped up and all the people go wild about it and try to promote political, philosophical and even (as you do) historical justification for it.
I first learned of it myself over 20 years ago. You may have gained knowledge a couple of years ago, but it has been academically and medically studied for nearly a century now. The first known modern surgery happened in 1930.
it think this is simply a modern zeitgeist and joke honestly. the only cases i am familar with, of the transsexual people/creatures, is ancient MYTHOLOGY.
Of course. You haven't done much study or research into, so why would you be more familiar with it?
 
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