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President's Day -- Ranking the Presidents

PureX

Veteran Member
Obama deserves sainthood, right?
I didn't post a word about Obama. Why are you?
Libya and Syria destroyed.
They probably shouldn't have gotten themselves involved with murdering terrorists. That tends to bring the ire of the whole world down on you.
If you believe that the warlike attitude is wrong, the most horrific wars were fought because of the Obama's administration.
Well, that's just a stupid comment.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Worthless survey. Just further proof that academia is completely dominated by leftists.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
They probably shouldn't have gotten themselves involved with murdering terrorists. That tends to bring the ire of the whole world down on you.
Assad and Gaddafi were the Pan-Arabic socialists condemning murdering terrorists.
America sided with the fundamentalists.

Well, that's just a stupid comment.
I just notice a partisan attitude, most of the times.
Because I condemn Bush and Obama equally. They are equal to me.

But refusing to condemn Obama, and condemning Bush and Reagan exclusively seems partisan and partial vision to me: with all the outmost respect, of course. :)
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Who was terrified of Soviet Communism?
The greedy bankers who were terrified of losing their assets.
Not certainly the American middle class. Or the proletariat.

Maybe if you were around like I was when Sputnik was launched, and we had to have drills for what to do if under a nuclear attack. Where I went to school, about 2 blocks away they were selling bomb shelters to dig into the ground. With the nuclear testing, we couldn't even go outside for a couple of days until the nuclear fallout was gone.

IOW, we learned that a nuclear war could ruin your entire day. :oops:
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I still see George W. Bush as the bottom of the presidential barrel. Two wars of aggression, a global recession, and a legacy of destruction and empowerment of terrorism through an utterly misguided "War on Terror"–and the echoes of all of these atrocious failures still affect millions of people to this day.

Trump doesn't even come close to that. Perhaps he would in a second term, with his hawkishness and dictatorial aspirations.
Yup. Harrison is basically the default neutral President since he didn't live long enough after his inauguration to get anything done. Bush Jr., who only knew how to destroy, somehow is better than that?
 
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Jefferson is high on the list, and some historians believed he was caught in a Catch-22, namely that if he freed his slaves out of conscience that it would financially doom him.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Assad and Gaddafi were the Pan-Arabic socialists condemning murdering terrorists.
America sided with the fundamentalists.


I just notice a partisan attitude, most of the times.
Because I condemn Bush and Obama equally. They are equal to me.

But refusing to condemn Obama, and condemning Bush and Reagan exclusively seems partisan and partial vision to me: with all the outmost respect, of course. :)
That's because you neither see nor care about the many millions of Americans that have lost their homes, their jobs, their health and their hope because Ronald Reagan was an idiot actor that didn't know crap about economics and so listened to the ruthless neo-cons in his administration. And because Bill Clinton was a con man willing to sell out everything and everyone for his own gratification at the drop of a hat of a pair of panties. At least Reagan was an idiot. Clinton doesn't even have that excuse.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Maybe if you were around like I was when Sputnik was launched, and we had to have drills for what to do if under a nuclear attack. Where I went to school, about 2 blocks away they were selling bomb shelters to dig into the ground. With the nuclear testing, we couldn't even go outside for a couple of days until the nuclear fallout was gone.

IOW, we learned that a nuclear war could ruin your entire day. :oops:
But accidentally...my country which is much closer to Moscow has never lived any of this.
They used to vote for the Italian Communist Party and the Italian Socialist Party.
Funded by Moscow.
So...please...
just paranoiac propaganda.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
That's because you neither see nor care about the many millions of Americans that have lost their homes, their jobs, their health and their hope because Ronald Reagan was an idiot actor that didn't know crap about economics and so listened to the ruthless neo-cons in his administration. And because Bill Clinton was a con man willing to sell out everything and everyone for his own gratification at the drop of a hat of a pair of panties. At least Reagan was an idiot. Clinton doesn't even have that excuse.
Clinton is often considered a great president in the old continent. Because of the Oslo Accords.

That said, I still don't understand why you never mention the errors done during the Obama's administration.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Clinton is often considered a great president in the old continent. Because of the Oslo Accords.

That said, I still don't understand why you never mention the errors done during the Obama's administration.
Most of Obama's problems were inherited. But he was also way too cautious by nature. Its what caused most of his mistakes.
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Seeing Ronald Reagan there at number 16 reminds me of Mikhail Gorbachev's first impression of him. He told the Politburo; "In Reagan we are dealing with an enemy...who is extremely primitive, has the looks of a troglodyte and displays mental incapacity."

Just thought I'd throw that in there.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
But accidentally...my country which is much closer to Moscow has never lived any of this.
They used to vote for the Italian Communist Party and the Italian Socialist Party.
Funded by Moscow.
So...please...
just paranoiac propaganda.

Paranoia, yes-- propaganda, not so much. We were the Soviet Union's main enemy-- Italy wasn't.
 
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