Intentions & reality are often at odds.
Miscarriages of justice should be addressed
for all...not just those seen by governors &
Presidents.
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Pressure On Biden To Pardon Trump
- Thread starter Revoltingest
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Miscarriages of justice should be addressed
for all...not just those seen by governors &
Presidents.
Don't try to be disingenous with me.
BrightShadow
Active Member
What is a "law"?
Are all judges impartial?
Are those judges above the law?
p.s. If you can elect a judge to ignore the law - you can elect a president to fix it!
Judges are rather above the law.
Misconduct is difficult to sanction.
Hence what's called "Black Robe Syndrome".
MI has the worst problem with it.
Not everything that can happenp.s. If you can elect a judge to ignore the law - you can elect a president to fix it!
will happen during a my life span.
Alien826
No religious beliefs
We already have that, via the appeals system. The Governor's power to pardon is really like a backstop to the process. We have to remember that he/she can also issue a stay of execution if evidence is discovered at the last minute.
It's all potentially flawed of course, like everything involving humans.
Incidentally, and I'll say this as it won't be believed, there is currently a discussion going on among us aliens as to whether the time has come for us to intervene.
Perhaps clemency should be subject to review
by another body, with some authority to stop
wrongful pardons, eg, Marc Rich.
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
Trump pardoned Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, and Steve Bannon
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
None at all.
More examples of bad pardons.
Alien826
No religious beliefs
Appointed by whom? Once we thought that SCOTUS was impartial, remember? Sorry I'm feeling a bit negative at the moment.
BrightShadow
Active Member
You could go on forever with your examples but at the end of the day -
"the Good outweighs the Bad"!
Relax!
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What's worse is the notable lack of calls to bring those who incite an assassination attempt to justice.
Good question.
I've not yet pondered it.
Systems are worth improving, even
though perfection is never achieved.
Heyo
Veteran Member
Nope. I'd like to see him in prison. Him simply dying feels like he escaped justice.
BrokenBread
Member
What crime did he commit ?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That depends on what the appellate courts say if it is justice. The fat lady has not sung yet.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
We know none right now. Trump hasn't been convicted of any major felony because there are still appeals pending.
Heyo
Veteran Member
You don't follow the news (except Fox News), I presume? He was convicted of fraud, conspiracy to commit fraud, falsifying business records and defamation. He has other cases pending with more severe accusations.
In the news....
Biden Should Pardon Trump | National Review
A pardon would be statesmanlike — and would go a long way towards ending the cycle of lawfare that, if left unchecked, will cause more damage to the body politic.www.nationalreview.com
As always, Presidents remain above the law.
The DOJ looking for ways to drop the charges anyway.
Justice Department weighs how to drop charges against President-elect Donald Trump: source
A pardon I suppose would just amount to a political gesture.
A pardon only deals with the federal charges.
Though I'd suppose any state charges would be tied up in court for the next four years.