Pro Choice or Pro Life (Survey)

[Heyo]

Just a little survey on a question that seems to occupy many:

There have been in the recent past and are now two issues regarding choice and life.
There was a vocal minority (?) that insisted on their bodily autonomy and wouldn't get vaccinated even so it would have helped to stop the spread of a deadly disease that killed millions. Were you team pro choice or team pro life?
There is a vocal minority that insists other people should be stripped of their right to bodily autonomy to save one life. Are you team pro choice or are you team pro life?

To clear things up, in both cases the question is to be interpreted as being reasonable. Of course people with medical problems shouldn't be forced to take the vaccine and likewise people with medical problems shouldn't be forced to give birth. Think about a law with reasonable exceptions for both cases.

 

[Secret Chief]

I voted pro choice but I'm not sure vaccination against a global pandemic and abortion are comparable, specifically on the wider scale societal effect. In fact, I was tempted to go for the hypocrite option.

 

[Nakosis]

Just a little survey on a question that seems to occupy many:

There have been in the recent past and are now two issues regarding choice and life.
There was a vocal minority (?) that insisted on their bodily autonomy and wouldn't get vaccinated even so it would have helped to stop the spread of a deadly disease that killed millions. Were you team pro choice or team pro life?
There is a vocal minority that insists other people should be stripped of their right to bodily autonomy to save one life. Are you team pro choice or are you team pro life?

To clear things up, in both cases the question is to be interpreted as being reasonable. Of course people with medical problems shouldn't be forced to take the vaccine and likewise people with medical problems shouldn't be forced to give birth. Think about a law with reasonable exceptions for both cases.

Pro-life
Anti-bans and or mandates.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Just a little survey on a question that seems to occupy many:

There have been in the recent past and are now two issues regarding choice and life.
There was a vocal minority (?) that insisted on their bodily autonomy and wouldn't get vaccinated even so it would have helped to stop the spread of a deadly disease that killed millions. Were you team pro choice or team pro life?
There is a vocal minority that insists other people should be stripped of their right to bodily autonomy to save one life. Are you team pro choice or are you team pro life?

To clear things up, in both cases the question is to be interpreted as being reasonable. Of course people with medical problems shouldn't be forced to take the vaccine and likewise people with medical problems shouldn't be forced to give birth. Think about a law with reasonable exceptions for both cases.

I'm pro choice for both. Nobody should be forced to give birth or have a needle stuck in their arm against their will.

That being said, the right not to be vaccinated against your will doesn't automatically entail a right to infect other people. A person who chooses not to be vaccinated isn't entitled to, say, keep their in-person job, or to enter a store that has curbside pickup.

 

[Altfish]

Voted "I'm a hypocrite" because there is a big difference between the two options

Being pro-choice for abortions, is about allowing women/families making a decision that only affects them/their family.
Being against pro-choice with vaccines is about ensuring that you cannot come into contact with some conspiracy theorist who refuses the vaccine, catches covid and is passing it onto everyone they meet/come into contact with. I accept that there are some people who can't have vaccines for medical reasons but these same people are usually needing to self-isolate and do so.

 

[Secret Chief]

Voted "I'm a hypocrite" because there is a big difference between the two optionspro-choice

Being pro-choice for abortions, is about allowing women/families making a decision that only affects them/their family.
Being against pro-choice with vaccines is about ensuring that you cannot come into contact with some conspiracy theorist who refuses the vaccine, catches covid and is passing it onto everyone they meet/come into contact with. I accept that there are some people who can't have vaccines for medical reasons but these same people are usually needing to self-isolate and do so.

What if those who refused the vaccine were rounded up and put on an island in the middle of nowhere? Reasonable?

 

[Heyo]

Voted "I'm a hypocrite" because there is a big difference between the two optionspro-choice

Being pro-choice for abortions, is about allowing women/families making a decision that only affects them/their family.
Being against pro-choice with vaccines is about ensuring that you cannot come into contact with some conspiracy theorist who refuses the vaccine, catches covid and is passing it onto everyone they meet/come into contact with. I accept that there are some people who can't have vaccines for medical reasons but these same people are usually needing to self-isolate and do so.

Thanks for your honesty. I was on the brink several times myself.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Just a little survey on a question that seems to occupy many:

There have been in the recent past and are now two issues regarding choice and life.
There was a vocal minority (?) that insisted on their bodily autonomy and wouldn't get vaccinated even so it would have helped to stop the spread of a deadly disease that killed millions. Were you team pro choice or team pro life?
There is a vocal minority that insists other people should be stripped of their right to bodily autonomy to save one life. Are you team pro choice or are you team pro life?

To clear things up, in both cases the question is to be interpreted as being reasonable. Of course people with medical problems shouldn't be forced to take the vaccine and likewise people with medical problems shouldn't be forced to give birth. Think about a law with reasonable exceptions for both cases.

No hypocrisy. One can be pro life and pro choice together.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I'm pro choice for both. Nobody should be forced to give birth or have a needle stuck in their arm against their will.

That being said, the right not to be vaccinated against your will doesn't automatically entail a right to infect other people. A person who chooses not to be vaccinated isn't entitled to, say, keep their in-person job, or to enter a store that has curbside pickup.

The responsibility for preventing infection is you. Not someone else.

 

[KW]

Just a little survey on a question that seems to occupy many:

There have been in the recent past and are now two issues regarding choice and life.
There was a vocal minority (?) that insisted on their bodily autonomy and wouldn't get vaccinated even so it would have helped to stop the spread of a deadly disease that killed millions. Were you team pro choice or team pro life?
There is a vocal minority that insists other people should be stripped of their right to bodily autonomy to save one life. Are you team pro choice or are you team pro life?

To clear things up, in both cases the question is to be interpreted as being reasonable. Of course people with medical problems shouldn't be forced to take the vaccine and likewise people with medical problems shouldn't be forced to give birth. Think about a law with reasonable exceptions for both cases.

I'm pro death for viruses. Pro life for human babies.

I don't think the government should force a person to take a medicine.

I don't think a person should be allowed to kill another innocent person.

 

[Koldo]

Just a little survey on a question that seems to occupy many:

There have been in the recent past and are now two issues regarding choice and life.
There was a vocal minority (?) that insisted on their bodily autonomy and wouldn't get vaccinated even so it would have helped to stop the spread of a deadly disease that killed millions. Were you team pro choice or team pro life?
There is a vocal minority that insists other people should be stripped of their right to bodily autonomy to save one life. Are you team pro choice or are you team pro life?

To clear things up, in both cases the question is to be interpreted as being reasonable. Of course people with medical problems shouldn't be forced to take the vaccine and likewise people with medical problems shouldn't be forced to give birth. Think about a law with reasonable exceptions for both cases.

It is complicated.

I support the right to early abortions, but not late abortions.
I support the right not to be vaccinated, but it depends on what we are dealing with (How high is the death rate? Are we talking about 0,0001% or 10%? How many people are going to get infected?)

 

[KW]

Voted "I'm a hypocrite" because there is a big difference between the two optionspro-choice

Being pro-choice for abortions, is about allowing women/families making a decision that only affects them/their family.
Being against pro-choice with vaccines is about ensuring that you cannot come into contact with some conspiracy theorist who refuses the vaccine, catches covid and is passing it onto everyone they meet/come into contact with. I accept that there are some people who can't have vaccines for medical reasons but these same people are usually needing to self-isolate and do so.

Families don't get to decide to kill in a civil society.

 

[Koldo]

The responsibility for preventing infection is you. Not someone else.

It is everyone's. If I sneeze onto your face, am I responsible or not?

 

[Heyo]

No hypocrisy. One can be pro life and pro choice together.

I'd feel a bit hypocritical if I were for mandated vaccines but not against a woman's bodily autonomy. I could justify it, but it would feel wrong anyway.

 

[Heyo]

The responsibility for preventing infection is you. Not someone else.

The responsibility for birthing and raising a child is yours, not somebody else's.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It is everyone's. If I sneeze onto your face, am I responsible or not?

Sneezing is involuntary. **** happens.

I'd probably say bless you, offer a kleenex and life goes on.

 

[Koldo]

Sneezing is involuntary. **** happens.

It doesn't matter. It doesn't make me any less responsible for whatever harm I cause.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It doesn't matter. It doesn't make me any less responsible for whatever harm I cause.

No. It's my responsibility.

If I see someone sneezing enough times, ill just avoid the person.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No. It's my responsibility.

If I see someone sneezing enough times, ill just avoid the person.

How can science deniers still not understand how Covid is spread?

 

[Heyo]

I'm pro death for viruses. Pro life for human babies.

I don't think the government should force a person to take a medicine.

I don't think a person should be allowed to kill another innocent person.

So am I.
But I think you got your nomenclature in a twist there. A fetus is neither a baby nor a person.
What you really wanted to say was "I'm against the government taking away my right to bodily autonomy but I'm for the government taking away a pregnant person's right to bodily autonomy". Am I right?