Profiting off war in Ukraine

[Nakosis]

So you would give in to such an invasion by such people?
OK....... But you can't keep giving in to tyranny for ever. But then I guess you're somewhere safer than a Ukrainian, or a Latvian, or Lithuanian, or Estonian, or etc etc?

Comfy?

How many of your friends and family are you sending off to fight in Ukraine?

 

[Nakosis]

Can you provide a link for this statistic (a non-Russian one)?

Half of Ukrainians Want Quick, Negotiated End to War

A fair share of Ukrainians who favor negotiating a quick end to the war believe Ukraine should be open to ceding some territory in exchange for peace. More than half of this group (52%) agrees that Ukraine should be open to making some territorial concessions as part of a peace deal to end the war, while 38% disagree and another 10% don’t know.

 

[stvdv]

Even after 'finishing everything on your todo list',

you seem more eager to save your own skin than to defend your country! Good luck with your fate.

My Master used to say:
"What you see in others is in you"

 

[Revoltingest]

I am only a fan of:
1) Those who don't lie
2) Those who don't cheat

Sofar, I met only one person

That should answer all your "are you a fan" questions about people in politics

It's not clear how you feel about RFK Jr though.
You might believe he's an honest man.
And that honest people can hold dangerous views.

 

[stvdv]

It's not clear how you feel about RFK Jr though.
You might believe he's an honest man.
And that honest people can hold dangerous views.

Oh, you must have missed my thread and posts in which I quoted "lawyers are liars" + RFK is a lawyer, and he has been cheating on his wife, according to the wiki page I've read ... and after reading your info I definitely can't give him the benefit of the doubt

Of course, he might have seen the light last month, but usually that doesn't happen to people like him, but then again "miracles do happen" ... I'll believe it after I have seen it

 

[stvdv]

It's not clear how you feel about RFK Jr though.
You might believe he's an honest man.
And that honest people can hold dangerous views.

One more,
"Tell me your company, then I tell you who you are"

Trump has been lying a lot
So, those in trump's group will catch the lie virus

 

[soulsurvivor]

Half of Ukrainians Want Quick, Negotiated End to War

A fair share of Ukrainians who favor negotiating a quick end to the war believe Ukraine should be open to ceding some territory in exchange for peace. More than half of this group (52%) agrees that Ukraine should be open to making some territorial concessions as part of a peace deal to end the war, while 38% disagree and another 10% don’t know.

Of course. I want a negotiated end to the war too. And a quick end saves lives. Some concessions will be expected on both sides. But nobody is calling for unconditional surrender which is what you Putin lovers want.

 

[soulsurvivor]

My Master used to say:
"What you see in others is in you"

You are quite right. I am not a very brave person. I would probably be too scared to fight. But I would not blame others for defending their own country. Or take sides with a criminal thug like Putin.

 

[Revoltingest]

Oh, you must have missed my thread and posts in which I quoted "lawyers are liars" + RFK is a lawyer, and he has been cheating on his wife, according to the wiki page I've read ... and after reading your info I definitely can't give him the benefit of the doubt

Of course, he might have seen the light last month, but usually that doesn't happen to people like him, but then again "miracles do happen" ... I'll believe it after I have seen it

I'm rather distracted & slow.
I understand now.

 

[oldbadger]

I didn't say nor imply we are all cowards

And nor did !! I wrote:- If Putin thinks we are all cowards, then we've had it, I reckon

Well, then all Americans should be dead by now. All the Russian bans oppose Putin, as do all the weapons that are being sent to Ukraine

Or they are still on top of Putin's ToDo List

Putin is a murdering, thieving tyrant. If we give in to him then he'll take back Estonia, Finland, Lithuania, Moldova etc etc , one by one.
Our diplomats might get somewhere with him, but only if he knows that we are ALL united against him.

 

[oldbadger]

How many of your friends and family are you sending off to fight in Ukraine?

I don't have any family, my friends are all old, but in any case do you believe in sending people to fight on front lines, or giving them their own choices about such things? We hear of Brits going to Ukraine as soldiers, first aiders, stores deliverers and others. Sadly we hear of some of them dying.

Our Fire dept sent 19 Fire Engines to Ukraine last week, it is reported. We can help in many ways.
I'll guess that you are American......... at least your President Biden is determined to help as much as possible, for as long as possible.

But if we were to be invaded I reckon that all my old friends would sign up for defence, first aid, stretcher work....oh yes.

 

[Nakosis]

I don't have any family, my friends are all old, but in any case do you believe in sending people to fight on front lines, or giving them their own choices about such things? We hear of Brits going to Ukraine as soldiers, first aiders, stores deliverers and others. Sadly we hear of some of them dying.

Our Fire dept sent 19 Fire Engines to Ukraine last week, it is reported. We can help in many ways.
I'll guess that you are American......... at least your President Biden is determined to help as much as possible, for as long as possible.

But if we were to be invaded I reckon that all my old friends would sign up for defence, first aid, stretcher work....oh yes.

How many would have to die before you decided the cost was too great?

 

[Nakosis]

Of course. I want a negotiated end to the war too. And a quick end saves lives. Some concessions will be expected on both sides. But nobody is calling for unconditional surrender which is what you Putin lovers want.

Yes, beat that poor strawman.

 

[soulsurvivor]

Yes, beat that poor strawman.

Here are Putin's conditions for even starting negotiations or sitting at the table. Putin wants to keep all the territory he already controls, he wants Ukraine to give up all land that Russia claims including land that Ukraine still controls, he wants Ukraine to demilitarize and promise no alliance with the west. In other words, he wants a complete surrender before negotiations even START.

Putin lovers want exactly what Putin wants. This is not a strawman.

Putin lists Russia's conditions for peace talks with Ukraine

President says as soon as Ukraine withdraws its troops from Russian-claimed regions, declares neutral status, Moscow will halt all combat operation - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

[stvdv]

You are quite right. I am not a very brave person. I would probably be too scared to fight.

Not all are born to fight wars. In animal kingdom also not all are lions. Still all are equally valuable

But I would not blame others for defending their own country. Or take sides with a criminal thug like Putin.

Defending your country is needed

I am not scared that Putin will attack NATO, unless NATO threatens Russia, which they have done for years. I hope NATO stops breaking their given promise, otherwise we might get war, and then that's on NATO.

I think Trump understands Putin, and Trump wil solve this. Biden has been useless in that regard

Of course Trump sometimes lies, but I pray that with Russia he will do the right thing, and having seen Trump's conversation with Zelensky I am even more convinced that Trump will indeed solve it. Unless Biden messes things up before Trump has a chance

 

[stvdv]

I'm rather distracted &

You seem quite sharp to me

slow.

No, not really
You reply 10 times faster than I reply

I understand now.

That's good

Just remember: Sometimes I might make a positive remark about Trump if he does something, which I think is good, but that does not mean that I trust him. Maybe that distracted you? Someone who lies, I can't trust that easy.

I am neutral towards the person (trump, biden)
I do my best to only focus on their actions (same with Putin and Zelensky). Otherwise I might start hating them, and then I am in trouble

 

[Revoltingest]

You seem quite sharp to me

Only relative to some of
the dimmest bulbs on RF.

No, not really
You reply 10 times faster than I reply

Brain is slow....slow witted.

That's good

Just remember: Sometimes I might make a positive remark about Trump if he does something, which I think is good, but that does not mean that I trust him. Maybe that distracted you? Someone who lies, I can't trust that easy.

I am neutral towards the person (trump, biden)
I do my best to only focus on their actions (same with Putin and Zelensky). Otherwise I might start hating them, and then I am in trouble

I hate with care.

 

[stvdv]

And nor did !! I wrote:- If Putin thinks we are all cowards, then we've had it, I reckon

I know you didn't, but others might interpret it that way ... happened before ... hence I made it very clear to those

 

[PureX]

Wealthy military industrialists profit off warfare because they build and sell the weapons and supplies needed to make war. In fact, most of you with a 401k or other investments of any kind are very likely profiting off every war and military action that happens.

That doesn't mean that warfare is not sometimes necessary. Or sometimes the only right course of action.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I have an Italian military rifle for sale. Never been fired, only dropped once.

I'll bet it says , "Made in Pakistan"