Profiting off war in Ukraine

[Twilight Hue]

Not much freedom in a grave 6 feet under.

Russia has the resources to keep this going for several more years.

With the North Korean cannon fodder, it could be a much longer time than that.

 

[Nakosis]

Here are Putin's conditions for even starting negotiations or sitting at the table. Putin wants to keep all the territory he already controls, he wants Ukraine to give up all land that Russia claims including land that Ukraine still controls, he wants Ukraine to demilitarize and promise no alliance with the west. In other words, he wants a complete surrender before negotiations even START.

Putin lovers want exactly what Putin wants. This is not a strawman.

Putin lists Russia's conditions for peace talks with Ukraine

President says as soon as Ukraine withdraws its troops from Russian-claimed regions, declares neutral status, Moscow will halt all combat operation - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

You said unconditional surrender, then provide a list of conditions.

 

[soulsurvivor]

You said unconditional surrender, then provide a list of conditions.

Giving everything that Putin wants is unconditional surrender. His conditions are that he gets everything he wants - the four provinces completely, Crimea, Ukraine demilitarized, Ukraine neutral without alliances.

It would not be unconditional, if Ukraine could put some conditions of its own - but apparently that is too complicated for you to understand.

 

[Nakosis]

but apparently that is too complicated for you to understand.

Sure, attack the poster when you don't have an argument.
Come back when you got one.

 

[soulsurvivor]

Sure, attack the poster when you don't have an argument.
Come back when you got one.Y

The argument was before that line. You conveniently ignored it. Here it is again:

It is unconditional surrender because Ukraine cannot put any conditions of its own while negotiating.

Ukraine not being able to put conditions - is otherwise known as unconditional. No conditions from Ukraine means unconditional.

Giving everything to Putin means surrendering. So, giving everything to Putin without any conditions of your own, means 'unconditional surrender.'

 

[Nakosis]

The argument was before that line. You conveniently ignored it. Here it is again:

It is unconditional surrender because Ukraine cannot put any conditions of its own while negotiating.

Ukraine not being able to put conditions - is otherwise known as unconditional. No conditions from Ukraine means unconditional.

Giving everything to Putin means surrendering. So, giving everything to Putin without any conditions of your own, means 'unconditional surrender.'

I was referring to the earlier strawman, that anyone opposed to the war wants an unconditional surrender.

 

[soulsurvivor]

I was referring to the earlier strawman, that anyone opposed to the war wants an unconditional surrender.

I did not say anyone who opposed the war wanted unconditional surrender. I said Putin wants unconditional surrender, And all Putin lovers want what Putin wants.

As for those who don't love Putin and are opposed to the war. I don't have any idea what they want to happen. Putin's conditions are unconditional surrender even before starting negotiations. So what do these people want Ukraine and its allies to do?

Putin lists Russia's conditions for peace talks with Ukraine

President says as soon as Ukraine withdraws its troops from Russian-claimed regions, declares neutral status, Moscow will halt all combat operation - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr